There are slight differences in average pattern and body shape, but the best way is to know which river the fish were collected from. Each variation of leopardus has it's own likes and dislikes for breeding.

I've been keeping a few since September, and they are slow growing. They are 1.5 years old and yet already my own L397 fry, hatched in August 2017, have already outgrown these claustellifer. Wow, either your claustellifer are really tiny or your L397 are growing like crazy. What size are your L397 ...

I've been keeping a few since September, and they are slow growing. They are 1.5 years old and yet already my own L397 fry, hatched in August 2017, have already outgrown these claustellifer. Wow, either your claustellifer are really tiny or your L397 are growing like crazy. What size are your L397 ...

it also looks as though the gill color is much darker in the most recent photos. Perhaps you may have some sort of issue stemming from that, which is causing the sores and scratching, or vice versa. I would be inclined to isolate this fish and watch it and the others closely for several weeks.

And oh so many catfish you may not see anywhere else!

Hi, the juvenile above is a L 427 for sure, I know it's parents and the breeder. It cant get more "L427ish". You should be confident with your young as 427 then Mol. As they are just very uncommon since it is a trip the fishermen make just for that fish. You should never find 427 mixed in...

I do not see any L427 in this thread. Photos of your young one as it grows may change that but right now, there are none here. I also am not seeing anything that would leave me to believe there is a true leopardus/aka 600 in this thread either. Amount of orange on fins can be as variable aspeed the ...

Great information thanks Janne!

There are several different places I trust. Wetspottropicalfish.com, Imperial Tropicals, and closer to home for you, tangledupincichlids.com usually hAve some oddball stock. Wet spot may cost you more for shipping as its about as far across the US as you could get... There are also plenty of quality...

I agree with @Jools about 2. Possibly a 3rd? I was mostly looking at pelvic fin shape.

Any pictures of the adults would be useful also to help confirm ID

Eric, Looking good! Plus in my opinion it never hurts to have a larger group that you could always try to remove a pair from to their own tank to breed if desired. It will be interesting to see pictures of the larger one after a month or so and some more weight put on. I, like you, lean toward it be...

That size of 13" of TL just seems large to me for the Atabapo is all. Didn't think they got that large, good to learn something new! My apologies @Jools for second guessing you!

It looks like it may be some type of peckoltia, but would need a mouth shot to verify this. It is an awesome looking fish regardless of what it is though!

I would agree with the one that is 8" and pictured most. It appears that the one on the left in the second picture may be some sort of spatuloricaria, would also explain the 13" size. Any of pictures of the larger one?

@Andrewjw

Well I couldn't hold back until the weekend as I am currently being kept out of my main fishroom......enjoy updated pics of full bellied pseudacanthicus fry...just quick camera phone pics, don't judge good ones are on the real camera....

@Andrewjw Pics will come this weekend. All are doing well so far, and tge males are starting to attempt to attract the female, but she has a ways to go. Now if another species would figure it out I would be even happier...

Thanks to both of you! They are eating well and already around 15mm on average with this coming sunday to be 3 weeks from day of hatching. Glad to be able to have gotten my hands on such an awesome species and be lucky enough to have spawned them!

I agree with @Jools, as it looks like there may possibly be two species or at least two collection locations in that one picture to me...

PseudaSmart wrote:Are they to selling size yet
how about an updat is the actual question.
Thanks,
Jim

Ask and you shall receive!
They are around 13mm possibly up to 15mm already. Hard to get accurate measure as they are barely keeping still....

Some pics of 4 day old fry.

Thanks soooo much Eric!

Hi all! Figured I would share a pic of my L185 wigglers. Just pulled them from a rather ornery father (that I was moving his cave/babies). The eggs were laid on August 20th. Edit; apparently I didn't save the picture only took it to upload, so if someone more knowledgable than me in these things can...

Hi,

I would lean toward both being females personally. Though sexing plecos is not my strong point....

Is there anything that would make you think it isn't also a L66 but with a more striking pattern? Are they from same import/breeder?

The pectoral appear rather thick and odontode laden. I would lean toward a male that passed because of some sort of internal infection/disease.

Safe trip and good luck Ian!

As Natural art said the largest thing with them can be aesthtics. Eric, I do use them on my panaqulous tanks without issue. L398 (breeding), L204 (growing out), L306 (breeding), L351 (growing out), L206 (growing). They don't turn into a "sloppy mess" as they don't really degrade in anyway....

Eric, A mattenfilter would be great for the tank! Just need to get an appropriate sized ppi is all. What species do you plan on putting in there? I would imagine something in the range of 10-15ppi would be most ideal. It would be able to handle a lot of the larger bulkier waste from the fish and not...

He will sneak out and grab a snack if you feed at lights out. Also be careful as females may eat eggs/fry so that the male will let them in so they can spawn....