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Doradid

Posted: 22 Aug 2011, 21:32
by Dave Rinaldo
I've never had an ID for these.
Juvenile
Juvenile
5.5" SL
5.5" SL

Re: Doradid

Posted: 22 Aug 2011, 22:37
by Silurus
Based on approximate counts of midlateral scutes, ?

Re: Doradid

Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 08:47
by Jools
Dave,

If you would like to email me a few pictures (esp. as they are now e.g. adult) then I will have a chat with Jose Birindelli about them. He was one of the co-authors on that species description too and is helping me revise that family in the cat-elog.

Cheers,

Jools

Re: Doradid

Posted: 27 Aug 2011, 00:07
by Dave Rinaldo
Ventral shot.
Image

Re: Doradid

Posted: 27 Aug 2011, 10:48
by The.Dark.One
It's hard to tell from the image but they look like pigmentation rather than pores. If so it rules out phlyzakion.

According to Mark Sabaj we need a pic of the infranuchal scute to be more helpful ion ID.

Get a close up of the end of the post cleithral (humeral) process and we might be able to see part of the infranuchal scute.

He thinks it has a look of Doras carinatus.

Re: Doradid

Posted: 27 Aug 2011, 20:15
by Dave Rinaldo
DSC_9637cs1.jpg
Get a close up of the end of the post cleithral (humeral) process
Is this the shot I should be working on?
(I still don't have a macro lens)

Re: Doradid

Posted: 28 Aug 2011, 12:53
by The.Dark.One
Yes but you need to concentrate nearer the tip and the scutes/bones above and near teh end of it (left hand end as you look at this picture)

Re: Doradid

Posted: 28 Aug 2011, 21:21
by Dave Rinaldo
It seems my photography skills aren't getting me anywhere 8-|
DSC_9707s.jpg
DSC_9707ccs.jpg

Re: Doradid

Posted: 29 Aug 2011, 00:26
by The.Dark.One
I will lighten the last image up and see if Mark can ID it based on the image.

Re: Doradid

Posted: 29 Aug 2011, 20:47
by Jools
Great work chaps!

Jools

Re: Doradid

Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 09:33
by Jools
I'm inclined to add it to the site as Doras phlyzakion. Any feedback from Mark, Steve?

Cheers,

Jools

Re: Doradid

Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 11:04
by sidguppy
cool!

this is exactly the same fish that we would get in the late 80' and early 90's in the shop labelled as "Hassar notospilus"

it's a golden oldie.
unfortunately very few LFS wanted to order them, back then the mortality rate with these was too high.

Re: Doradid

Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 12:28
by The.Dark.One
Jools wrote:I'm inclined to add it to the site as Doras phlyzakion. Any feedback from Mark, Steve?

Cheers,

Jools
Hi Jools

Sorry, Mark didn't get back to me the last time. I think he's been out of the country and very busy.

Re: Doradid

Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 00:56
by Dave Rinaldo
I'll take one of these to the US Catfish Convention in October. Mark Sabaj will be one of the speakers!
http://catfishcon.com/

Re: Doradid

Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 04:53
by Dave Rinaldo
Dave Rinaldo wrote:I'll take one of these to the US Catfish Convention in October. Mark Sabaj will be one of the speakers!
http://catfishcon.com/
I'm deciding whether or not to ship this fish to the convention.
Another of my 'not showy' catfishes ;)
Any more on ID confirmation?