Bought these as SAEs ... I don't think so.

[This Old Spouse, posts: 19]

Are these flying foxes?

[Dave Rinaldo, posts: 1758]

I am not very familiar with these fish, but I think your fish is Epalzeorhynchus kalopterus (flying fox)
Here is a link that may be helpful.

These fish are Cyprinids, not Catfish

[Arlington, posts: 27]

I'm not positive but I think that your fish may be what I've always heard called a "false SAE". The gold line above the black line and the black line is smooth where it meets the gold line. In a true SAE the black line is rough and there is not a gold line at all. If I'm correct this fish(the one in your pics) will get to about 6inches and will be hostile when it gets older as well as territorial towards any actual SAE you may add later.

Edited "I'm not positive but I think that your fish may be a "false" flying fox." to what I intended to say "I'm not positive but I think that your fish may be what I've always heard called a "false SAE"."

[This Old Spouse, posts: 19]

Thanks for your help.

[racoll, posts: 4491]

Dave is correct. This is Epalzeorhynchos kalopterus.

I'm not positive but I think that your fish may be a "false" flying fox.

Without a scientific name I can't know exactly what you're talking about, but it is not Garra cambodgiensis, a fish sometimes refereed to under that name.

[This Old Spouse, posts: 19]

They're definitely Epalzeorhynchus kalopterus. And from what I've been reading, it's doubtful I'll find a true Siamese algae eater in the U.S. But I will try making contact with the one supplier mentioned in the article referenced. Thanks again.

[racoll, posts: 4491]

it's doubtful I'll find a true Siamese algae eater in the U.S.

Again without scientific names, it's hard to know precisely which fish you are talking about, but, I think the fish you are after (i.e. the one sold as Crossocheilus siamensis, the Siamese algae eater), are in fact C. langei or C. atrilimes, and are readily available in the trade.

[This Old Spouse, posts: 19]

Really? That's excellent!

[racoll, posts: 4491]

Well, they are ubiquitous in Europe, Singapore and New Zealand, but I can't say for sure about the States. Local markets will differ to some extent. Maybe someone else can confirm?

[plecomanpat, posts: 192]

Here in michigan the SAE are readily available...so much so that the price has dropped considerably due to the fact that they are now being captive bred, and by a local hobbyist as well....regards Pat

[pleco_breeder, posts: 803]

I'm curious if the breeder has contact info. I had a surprise spawn from a trio C. langei last month and was unable to collect the eggs before they got eaten. I had planned on trying again during the most recent rainy season on that rack, but couldn't clear tank space for them. The rainy season changes are the only thing I can figure could've triggered them because I wasn't doing anything else special. I'd like to find someone I can share notes with because there isn't a lot of info out there about spawning habits.

Larry

[plecomanpat, posts: 192]

I will ask the friend of mine that works at my LFS, he knows the guy breeding them and that is where they get their stock from...regards, Pat