Indoor Pond Project

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Indoor Pond Project

Post by CatWhat » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:32 pm

I have been thinking about doing an indoor pond for years now and finally decided to go ahead and start a log of the progression.
The pond is actually an agricultural waterer that I had to get ordered in and it is approximately 300 gallons. I just picked it up two days ago.
My plan is to frame around it for extra support and then to box it in just to tidy it up. Basically having a ledge around the pond, perhaps to place some potted plants around to naturalize it a bit.
The only thing I have done with it so far is taken the drain and bulk head fittings apart to silicone the fittings before reinstalling them. I don't intend to actually utilize the drain so I figured I would seal it up the best I could before leak testing it.
The next step is to place it outside and fill it up and see how it hold ups for a few days.
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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by Bas Pels » Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:51 pm

on the plus side, I think this can be very beautifull, and cheep. But on the downside, you will not be abel to see any fish from aside, and light in the tank wil lbe dim. Therefore it might be hard to see much fishes

As far as I know, this kind of ponds need outside support. You might want to construct a firm box, and fill it with sand - or potting soil, and make the whole even lushier than you are now planning

further, you could plant aquariumplants in pots too, and let them grow out of the pond. Echionodorus is an example I like very much.

I would like to see ome pictures of the end result (as far as you can call a picture of anb ongoing project a pic of the end result)
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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by Shane » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:10 pm

These Rubbermaid ponds are very thick and usually fine with no outside support. Same material and thickness they use to make horse/cow water troughs. My only warning would be to pay attention to the amount of humidity it adds to the house.
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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by CatWhat » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:29 am

This is actually a horse/cow water trough, well they have it listed as a livestock waterer. It seems pretty thick and rigid but I still plan to frame it out for added support just in case. As for lighting I have a 48" 3000 lumens LED that will be hanging over it so it will be easier to view for the fish. As for only being able to see them from above, I plan to house mostly large fish in there that should be able to be seen well from above, although yes you cannot beat the side view for sure.
At the moment with 16 tanks going in the basement the humidity is roughly around 38 with the dehumidifier going and around 44 without. I also have the HRV for the house that will pick up any slack if need be. But do plan to have it covered with clear plexi glass when not being viewed just to cut down on evaporation.

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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by TwoTankAmin » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:34 am

You can tell this should need no support because of the drain which is located at the bottom. But also because nowhere on the Rubbermaid site does it state it needs support nor do they show it in pictures being supported. Finally, feeding stock may be done in different locations. I cannot imagine something like this not being easy to move when the need arises. And then there is the fact they call them Structural Foam Stock Tanks. I would imagine structural implies able to withstand whatever it needs to because it is full of water.

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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by CatWhat » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:50 am

Agreed TwoTankAmin, I can't even get the sides to bow by pushing or pulling on them. Also I will be leak testing it with no supports so it is no doubt over kill. Although at a minimum I will be boxing it in just to clean it up a bit and have somewhere to hide the equipment and I have visions of putting potted plants around the perimeter to close it all in a bit.

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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by CatWhat » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:43 pm

Now for the leak test. I'll let it sit for a few days and hope for the best.
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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by CatWhat » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:50 am

The leak test is going good after 24hrs, seems to be holding the water with no issue. The overnight temp did dip below zero so there was a little skim of ice over the water this morning but no issue.

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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by CatWhat » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:56 am

Ok so after roughly 80 hours there were no leaks so I figured it was ok to call it good. I pumped it out with a submersible pond pump and brought it back inside. Now on to the construction phase although I am of two minds about elevating it up on a boxed in frame. I thought it would be more convenient to have it up off the floor so I could siphon it out, but after using the pump to do so I thought perhaps why not use that for cleaning and draining purposes.

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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by Viktor Jarikov » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:12 pm

Elevating up the tub would grant you flexibility in terms of siphoning or pumping and perhaps an easier, less back-bending maintenance.
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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by TwoTankAmin » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:41 pm

I have to agree with Victor. A number of years ago I realized the shortcoming of tanks (or other containers) being on the floor or barely above it. It is impossible to vacuum using a siphon. And one cannot really use a pump for this as the impeller will almost always clog and stop. I use pumps in both directions but never for cleaning the bottom.

For me, the result is I will never set a lower tank tank on a rack such that the bottom of the tank is less than 1 foot above the floor. Given that the container should have an outlet near the bottom for draining, this elevation should also help with that.
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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by CatWhat » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:39 am

Valid points guys, never really thought about the impeller clogging up while sucking from the bottom of the pond. Maybe I should go with the frame underneath, I have enough 2" x 12" to do so.

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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by Viktor Jarikov » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:27 pm

I'd set up the tub on cinder blocks but my setups have been called ghetto style on many occasions :) But you will be enclosing the whole thing, so I think concrete blocks would be better and safer long term.
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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by lovefishtank » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:21 am

I love indoor ponds because they can decrease the algae growth.
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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by CatWhat » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:12 pm

The construction has begun. Now just to box it in so I can hide the filters, power bars etc...and to have a little bit of a shelf/rim around it for potted plants.
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Re: Indoor Pond Project

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Re: Indoor Pond Project

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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by 2wheelsx2 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:13 am

Looking good. Is the raised lip to contain any splashing?

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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by CatWhat » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:08 am

Not so much for splashing water but to keep any jumping fish somewhat contained. But I am thinking of cutting the sides down a bit more. I put the full sheet of plywood up to see what it looked like and figured I could always trim some off if need be.

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Re: Indoor Pond Project

Post by Bas Pels » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:15 pm

If any fish would jump, it would be a pity if it would get into the openings between the plywood and the pond. If possible, please close them.

For the rest, a very inspiring project
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