Breeding Ancistrini sp. L082

[drpleco]

Nice work!!!

[MatsP]

Congratulations. Well done.

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Mats

[Birger Amundsen]

Congrats Haaavard

[jerry58]

Hi
I have been watching with breath held for you and congrats on getting this far and best of luck to you and your little baby fry from now on.
Onwards and upwards to the next stage!!!.

Jerry

[Morten]

Grattis again Haavard, thumbs up for you and the little one.

[dconnors]

[OlePaulsen]

Gratulerer så mye! Veldig kult ! I like it alot!

[drd]

Harvaard !!

You are the man

Sorry that its only one left but i am sure they will get on it again

Supernice macropictures to !

[Richard B]

I take my hat off to you Sir!

I am tempted to suggest you give the lil fella a name as we are all so involved with him/her as part of this thread...i'm not normally 'mushy' but his/her identity is no-longer an egg but a lil fishy!!!

[Haavard Stoere]

If it survives I will never-ever part with it. If it dies I will bury it along with my two departed cats in the forest nearby.

This is not really what I usually do, but "Name suggestions please" No, I can`t sex the fish

[DutchFry]

haavard congratulations!! pics look absolutely amazing!

Maybe Rini is a nice name? (Ancistrini ) that name is quite common here in Holland!

[Haavard Stoere]

haavard congratulations!! pics look absolutely amazing!

Maybe Rini is a nice name? (Ancistrini ) that name is quite common here in Holland!

Very good suggestion

How about Uno... As The One?

[Cristoffer Forssander]

Grattis!!! Verkligen toppen!

Most impressive!!!

[Haavard Stoere]

Thank you Cristoffer Not a Lepo, but a nice species nonetheless

[Richard B]

How about Uno... As The One?

Very clever! - i thought about Nemo as (in the film) he lost all his brothers & sisters......

[Haavard Stoere]

Nemo is a good one, but I am afraid there are a lot of guppies and goldfish having the name. Anyways... Just out of curiosity what is the meaning of Nemo?

[jerry58]

Hi

Nemo is a Latin word meaning "no man" or "no one".

Jerry

[claro]

Hi Haaward,

i speak Englisch very bad, but for you i found in dictionary a few words: fantastikal, inimitable, frontier, talented, inspired and plecofanatical.
Congratulations!
Milan

[Haavard Stoere]

Hi Haaward,

i speak Englisch very bad, but for you i found in dictionary a few words: fantastikal, inimitable, frontier, talented, inspired and plecofanatical.
Congratulations!
Milan

Thank you

Anyways... The fish is named Uno. Mazel Tov

[nerdworks]

If it survives I will never-ever part with it. If it dies I will bury it along with my two departed cats in the forest nearby.

This is not really what I usually do, but "Name suggestions please" No, I can`t sex the fish

Congratulations Haavard!! Great achievement founded on great involvement.

As always, I am very impressed by your photos. Great documentation.

About the naming of specimens. Not exactly what I would expect from a "professional" amateur like you, but a good opportunity for an exception. Uno is a good name for this baby. In case of few alternatives; Primus = First in Latin.

Best wishes for the newborn

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Joran

[DJ-don]

hallelujah!!! there is a god!!!
hope the fry survives this period!!!!!!

[jac]

Absolutely superb Congratulations Haavard!

Still, having only one must be nerve racking..... Just can't afford to lose one....

Good luck on raising Uno. Like the name

[naturalart]

Congradulations on such a hard won victory, I can only hope to be so lucky.

I'd vote for primo or stoma.

Good luck for you and 'uno'.

[Martin S]

I've just read through this thread and am absolutley astounded by the quality of the photos, and your obvious diligence in this process.
All your tanks are outstanding, and so, it appears, are your husbandry skills
Regards, and best of luck to you and 'Uno'
Martin

[Janne]

Haavard,
The fry looks like it has hatched 1-2 days to early but with your care it may survive I'm sure they will breed again and that time you maybe should concider to leave the eggs with the father at least the first 5-6 days before you steel the eggs, if the father feels comfortable it would not be any risk to leave the eggs, if the father act nervous you may consider to steel the eggs earlier... not because that you feel nervous ;)

Great achivement just to get them to breed

Janne

[Haavard Stoere]

Haavard,
The fry looks like it has hatched 1-2 days to early but with your care it may survive

Can they really go 6-7 days before hatching? The eggs were laid Friday Afternoon.

I'm sure they will breed again and that time you maybe should concider to leave the eggs with the father at least the first 5-6 days before you steel the eggs, if the father feels comfortable it would not be any risk to leave the eggs, if the father act nervous you may consider to steel the eggs earlier...

I generally agree about that, but I believe the eggs in this case would have been destroyed by the father within the first 24 hours since only 5 developed.

not because that you feel nervous ;)

I have some trust issues regarding water quality and the males ability to care for the eggs with such high ph. I am still working on plumbing for ro water and timers to control it in my fish room. Artificial care with methylene blue takes out bacteria and fungus. When I have had good healthy eggs from my L200s I have had good success with the technique.

Great achivement just to get them to breed
Janne

They are just horny fish doing their thing

Uno is one day old Sorry about the picture quality, but I won`t disturb him again till tomorrow.

[RickE]

Haavard this story makes wonderful reading and the pictures are wonderful too. Thanks for sharing it all with us and good luck to you and your single child!

[Janne]

Can they really go 6-7 days before hatching? The eggs were laid Friday Afternoon.

Yes, you can consider 6 days from spawning to hatching as normal withing many genus of Hypostominae-Ancistrinae, even that I have had earlier hatching and different time of hatching within the same species (not this one because I have never bred them). Of all species I have bred is the average time 6 days, a few times 7 days or more correct between 6 to 7 days. I have another interesting experience too with L199 where a few eggs hatched after 2 days and another few after 3-4 days and the rest after 6 days which should be "normal"... all fry was equal developed at hatching and all of them survived? It was not only one occasion so I wonder if there are any kind of reproduction technique under certain circumstances? a few other species not so extreme like L199 have had eggs hatched on the 4 day where the fry also was normal developed like the siblings that hatched on day 6.

I have some trust issues regarding water quality and the males ability to care for the eggs with such high ph.

Norway usual have very soft water, so what is your pH and the conductivity in your tapwater? pH should not be a problem but high conductivity can cause problems depending on what cause the higher conductivity in the water, if you succeed artificial in the same type of water maybe that not is the issue... high nitrate is a much higher problems hatching eggs than wrong pH.

Janne

[Haavard Stoere]

I don`t know why, but I assumed 5 days was a lot. Luckily I didn`t puncture the fry with my knife:) I really appreciate your advice as always

About my water.. It has high ph, low conductivity, low gh and very low kh. I am told the water company adds something to prevent the metal piping's from corroding. I will do some inquiries about exactly what they add. It must be something potent, because lowering ph without using RO is extremely difficult. About nitrates in my tanks it is very low. I have a total water-volume of 8000 liters, and change around 1000 liter a day. Nitrites and ammonia are close to none existing due to several extremely large sump systems for biological filtration.

[MatsP]

It must be something potent, because lowering ph without using RO is extremely difficult.

And pretty pointless, as whatever the pH change is done by, will almost certainly also change the conductivity, and often also KH/GH and/or introduce other "not so nice" things, such as phosphate. RO is the only way to go.

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Mats