Sexing my Baryancistrus Beggini, possible spawning activity :-) Eggs!!

[jac]

Thanks Linus_Cello, you can find all information in my breeding report (My Blogs).

Picture of the eggs, day 2. Looking great, embryo developing in eggs.

[2wheelsx2]

That's great. I bought a group of 5 after many failures to keep them alive and still have 3 but they have not bred for me...so I'm encouraged by this thread, since it took you almost half a year to get them going.

[jac]

Day 3 for the L239 Beginni eggs. The eggshell has gone very soft and is starting to leak in one or two eggs. They are getting pretty fragile by now. The embryo inside is very active and you see a lot of movement in the eggshell. Still another 24 hours to go yet I think. Sorry for the quality of the picture, to much light...

[Linus_Cello]

Thanks for putting the info on your blog. I don't think I saw anything about what you were feeding these with on your blog. Am I looking at the right place?

[jac]

Correct I couldn't add foods and reported the bug to Jools. He has fixed that now so when I have the time I can add the foods I give them.

For the Beginni; Viformo tabs (Sera), Plankton tabs (Sera), Spirulina tabs (Sera), Shrimp pellets (O.S.I.), frozen foods like brine shrimp, mysis, daphnia, and Repashy superfoods (Aquafarmen omnivor mix, Aquafarmen canivor mix and a 50-50 mix of Siolent green and Morningwood). I feed my fish twice a day, in the mornings only dried foods, in the evening I most times give the frozen foods.

[jac]

Day 4. Three fry hatched prematurely and don't look to great but the rest are still inside the egg and going strong

[jac]

Hatching day:

[2wheelsx2]

Very cool and thanks for documenting with such great detailed pictures. Gives me hope that some day I can do the same.

[krazyGeoff]

Nice one Jacqueline;-)

[jac]

Sadly this is the last time I will be updating my very first spawn of Baryancistrus Beginni (L239)

For many it's the egg incubation period that gives the most problems, but for me with these special eggs that went fine, great even. The problem started straight after hatching. I think about 50% of the fry had some kind of hemorrhaging from hatching (I did not artificially help them hatch). Some had leaking yolk sacks, some had a little patch of fungus on them. I did the normal routine of water change, nothing different then when they were still in the eggs, same water everything. Some of the fry were lying on their sides and when moving they started spinning instead of wiggling. Hoping for the best I left them and went to bed. The next morning some were already dead but looking at them, they were not doing so bad after all. Or so it seemed... Did another clean up and water change. That's when I noticed they weren't doing all that good, a lot of spinners... After work I looked at them again and more were dead. From the 29 that hatched I now only had 10 left and only 6 of them looked to be reasonable (as seen on the video). I saw some of the fry making these weird movements as if they were spasming (I will upload this video too, please comment on that if you have seen it before and what it could be). I was staring to think it had to do with the waterchanges. Maybe they react to sensitive to the water changes, so I did't do a water change this morning. But coming home just now, all fry except one -who isn't looking to great- have died. So I'm pretty eager to find out were the problem lies, hoping I will have some fry to show for the next time they spawn.... It would be better if the male sticks by his brood the next time and doesn't flee the site at first sight of eggs.........

Spasming fry..... Why is this happening, what makes them do this? I want to understand so I know what to do next time.

[bekateen]

Hi Jac, I'm sorry for your loss. Hopefully, you can find a solution and enjoy success next time.

Cheers, Eric

[krazyGeoff]

I think it was the water.
I'll try to find my old records....... To see if I recorded what I did.

Cheers

[jac]

I'm very disappointed.... It went from an awesome breeding to a total failure in just 24 hours

[krazyGeoff]

If it was easy, then everyone would be doing it......
And you are 75% there, and have learnt some things, so not a total failure.....
I think they will be spawning for the next 4 months, so you will get another chance.
I only ever saw about 12 hatched eggs from a spawn, so perhaps they have a high non survival rate?
Just about to start my 8 hour water change, so I will have sent you some information and thoughts when you get up tomorrow morning.
Cheers

Geoff

[spip]

Hi Jac & Geoff, we met during last L-days

Very sad news, sorry for that. I guess you have acheived the most difficult step with success. Just keep your dream and with all the success you got during the last years, I'm sure you will do it! I'm still waiting for my first spawn after 3 years.

This phenomena is not an exclusivity of the loris, I will be very interested to have a clear answer.

[jac]

Hi
We need to get talking more, maybe at the 4th Lwelse day's (if your coming of course)

Looking forward to my/my fish next attempt at spawning and raising some fry. Keeping hope it will work out one day

[spip]

Hi
We need to get talking more, maybe at the 4th Lwelse day's (if your coming of course)

j

Zeker en vast!
As soon as the date and the prog is know, I should book my we!

[jac]

New eggs this afternoon This time by another male and female. Hopefully this male will take better care for the eggs and not abandon them. Fingers crossed!!

[krazyGeoff]

[bekateen]

Congratulations, and good luck to the new father!

[jac]

This morning I found the eggs still at the back of the cave and the male was there as well
So, so far it is looking more promising then the first spawn at this stage! Fingers crossed!!!

[alleykat]

Hi Jac,

that's great! Wanted to tell you that I recently bought a group of eight of these to supplement my 2 males:) They're still in quarantaine right now, and quite small (4-7cm). Curious to see how things progress this time. Good luck!

[jac]

That's also good news Tjerk Never give up on fish you like!

[alleykat]

true, thanks for that! are your l239 not up for some romance right now? mine are growing nicely, and I have been fortunate enough to have gotten all 8 of them through quarantaine. Do yours eat a lot of wood? My two adults appear to be shredding as if they were panaque's, but it might also be the p. maccus in the tank.. I find a lot of info on their diet to be contradictory, so far they appear to be happy on a bit of everything though Good luck with any further tries with them!

[Tony4143]

Awesome!! Thanks for sharing