Pseudohemiodon Apithanos breeding project

[bekateen]

Hi jac,
What kind of egg tumbler are you using?
Thanks, Eric

[CharlieM9]

When I came in my fish house this morning I noticed my brown female and the smaller male courting in the corner of the tank. The bottom of the tank was bare, all sand was removed. The female tried to push him over while the male was making strange head movements. Exciting times Really nice to see them in action!

That is awesome JAC! That is always a wonderful feeling seeing stuff like that! Not to sidetrack, but I felt the same way when I turned the lights on a few hours after normal lights out and managed to get a video of the courtship/spawning behavior of my

hemiodontichthys acipenserinus

.

It is nice to see the whiptail getting so much love lately! I believe it was Jools who once made a comment along the lines of "I've never gone into an lfs and thought to myself, 'Oh, another tank full of whiptails, shrug'"!

Hopefully another male is holding tomorrow or soon for you!

[jac]

Hi jac,
What kind of egg tumbler are you using?
Thanks, Eric

I use ZET-80 Sizz tumblers. Never had such good tumblers before!

[jac]

When I came in my fish house this morning I noticed my brown female and the smaller male courting in the corner of the tank. The bottom of the tank was bare, all sand was removed. The female tried to push him over while the male was making strange head movements. Exciting times Really nice to see them in action!

That is awesome JAC! That is always a wonderful feeling seeing stuff like that! Not to sidetrack, but I felt the same way when I turned the lights on a few hours after normal lights out and managed to get a video of the courtship/spawning behavior of my

hemiodontichthys acipenserinus

.

It is nice to see the whiptail getting so much love lately! I believe it was Jools who once made a comment along the lines of "I've never gone into an lfs and thought to myself, 'Oh, another tank full of whiptails, shrug'"!

Hopefully another male is holding tomorrow or soon for you!

Nothing found yesterday or this morning. But they are active that's for sure
I have a group of

hemiodontichthys acipenserinus

, bought not long ago (March). They are the most slow moving Whiptails I have ever seen ;) Hoping to spawn these too in the future. I have always had a weak spot for Whiptails

[jac]

Day 7. Today I had some problems with the eggs.. On the right you can see an egg which has enlarged, I think it is due to osmotic pressure. On the left is a dead egg swirling but you can also see another dead larvae, it's the one with the white spot on the egg. So lost 3 larvae at this stage. One of the larvae hatched premature, my fault I guess because I rinsed the eggs out of the tumbler so I could clean it... When I put them back gently it hatched
I did a small water change, about 25%, using warm water to refresh to keep the temperature the same. I then put a blanket on top of the tank to make it dark where the eggs are in the tumbler.
It seemed to have worked and the larvae were ok the next morning. I did another small water change today, same routine. Even the premature hatchling was doing fine and had even grown during the night! So a bit more hopeful ;)

Day 7

Day 8, top view

Day 8, side view

[jac]

Day 9. The outer shell isn't very clean anymore and a little fungus has started to attach.. It's a hard job keeping eggs good for such a long time!!



Top view

Side view

Later on I went to feed the fish and noticed one of the fry had it's tail out of the shell and wiggling it hard. So I helped it out of it's eggshell.. Another premature baby Apithanos in the tumbler.

[CharlieM9]

Jac, it is amazing to think how much these whiptails or plecos even do to keep the eggs healthy, and in comparison how much less effective most things we try to use are.

Hope the eggs are still doing well enough!

[jac]

They didn't make it unfortunately.... The premature fry had died and the remaining eggs died due to the fungus... I have 1 egg but that also doesn't look good enough to survive.
Hopefully the male will try and take care of his second batch, if they spawn again. This was defiantly one of the most difficult tasks I have had so far incubating eggs...

[bekateen]

Sorry, jac. Don't give up, keep trying. With the help of your fish, you will succeed.

Cheers, Eric

[jac]

Lost the very last egg yesterday morning.... Only the tail was out of the eggshell when I found it in the morning. I removed the shell but the fry was already dead

[krazyGeoff]

Next time eh.

[verbal]

Congrats on the spawning. How are the fry doing?

[carkichi]

Dame...I think mine spawned too. I was moving my fish around in preparation for the L397s. At the end, I saw a cluster of eggs on the sand. I picked it up and put it in a jar. I thought it was L333s or other Hypans in the tank....I saw wigglers. I changed water regularly on Sat and Sun. More wigglers....Went to work monday , came home to see the water severely clouded, eggs/wigglers all lost.

I don't have a tumbler


Thanks for sharing, now I know....I have to get a tumbler

[carkichi]

Ooops, did not read to the end before posting , sorry to hear about your loss