are there spines hard now? or are they soft? i was reading your response and i was wondering if that was what you were reffering to when you said teh fish might be in for a surprise.
how big do they need to be to be able to tell the differance? and the number of rays is 8 in the multipunctatas and 7 in the grandiops?
im sure im just another new guy asking too many basic questions and im sure this is rather tiring for you.
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