Doradid

[Dave Rinaldo, posts: 1754]

I've never had an ID for these.

Juvenile

5.5" SL

[Silurus]

Based on approximate counts of midlateral scutes, Doras phlyzakion?

[Jools]

Dave,

If you would like to email me a few pictures (esp. as they are now e.g. adult) then I will have a chat with Jose Birindelli about them. He was one of the co-authors on that species description too and is helping me revise that family in the cat-elog.

Cheers,

Jools

[Dave Rinaldo, posts: 1754]

Ventral shot.

[The.Dark.One, posts: 1438]

It's hard to tell from the image but they look like pigmentation rather than pores. If so it rules out phlyzakion.

According to Mark Sabaj we need a pic of the infranuchal scute to be more helpful ion ID.

Get a close up of the end of the post cleithral (humeral) process and we might be able to see part of the infranuchal scute.

He thinks it has a look of Doras carinatus.

[Dave Rinaldo, posts: 1754]

Get a close up of the end of the post cleithral (humeral) process

Is this the shot I should be working on?
(I still don't have a macro lens)

[The.Dark.One, posts: 1438]

Yes but you need to concentrate nearer the tip and the scutes/bones above and near teh end of it (left hand end as you look at this picture)

[Dave Rinaldo, posts: 1754]

It seems my photography skills aren't getting me anywhere

[The.Dark.One, posts: 1438]

I will lighten the last image up and see if Mark can ID it based on the image.

[Jools]

Great work chaps!

Jools

[Jools]

I'm inclined to add it to the site as Doras phlyzakion. Any feedback from Mark, Steve?

Cheers,

Jools

[sidguppy, posts: 3827]

cool!

this is exactly the same fish that we would get in the late 80' and early 90's in the shop labelled as "Hassar notospilus"

it's a golden oldie.
unfortunately very few LFS wanted to order them, back then the mortality rate with these was too high.

[The.Dark.One, posts: 1438]

I'm inclined to add it to the site as Doras phlyzakion. Any feedback from Mark, Steve?

Cheers,

Jools

Hi Jools

Sorry, Mark didn't get back to me the last time. I think he's been out of the country and very busy.

[Dave Rinaldo, posts: 1754]

I'll take one of these to the US Catfish Convention in October. Mark Sabaj will be one of the speakers!
http://catfishcon.com/

[Dave Rinaldo, posts: 1754]

I'll take one of these to the US Catfish Convention in October. Mark Sabaj will be one of the speakers!
http://catfishcon.com/

I'm deciding whether or not to ship this fish to the convention.
Another of my 'not showy' catfishes
Any more on ID confirmation?