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Anyone know what catfish is this?

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It looks like a roughed up Bagridae or Pseudopimelodidae of some sort!
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bigamefish wrote:It looks like a roughed up Bagridae or Pseudopimelodidae of some sort!
It is from Rio Nanay.

Will this help with ID? I don't think it's a Bagridae.

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It's indeed a member from the

Have a look at and
Just click the links to see all members of these genera.
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Bagridae are indeed not in Rio Nanay. Not sure which one, but have a look at . (See also what Marc says!)

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Thx guys. Will check out the links tomorrow.

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Hi

This is a Batrochoglanis sp. Possibly villosus though there are a couple of others that might possibly be found in that area.
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The.Dark.One wrote:Hi

This is a Batrochoglanis sp. Possibly villosus though there are a couple of others that might possibly be found in that area.
It's around 9 to 10 inch. B. villosus is only around 6 inch right?

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No, I've had a villosus that was at least 7 and a friend in the Catfish Study Group had one even bigger.
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The.Dark.One wrote:No, I've had a villosus that was at least 7 and a friend in the Catfish Study Group had one even bigger.
Hmmmmm ok thx.

Anyway I'll try to get better pics of it when I pick it up from the shop next week.

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If I had to pick between a B. Villosus and some Cephalosilurus, I'd pick the former but the size, tentatively, points to the latter.

BTW, Cephalosilurus species are very hard to ID, IME. See a sample (starts with 2nd post on this page) http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... h&start=80... and then look up the reply/input on Waterwolves by Wolfgang, an acknowledged expert, linked in my last post.
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Viktor Jarikov wrote:and then look up the reply/input on Waterwolves by Wolfgang, an acknowledged expert, linked in my last post.
Too bad non-members of Waterwolves aren't allowed to enter the site....
Could you add that reply yourself, Victor?
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In Cephalosilurus the lower jaw is longer than the upper, whereas in Batrochoglanis they are equal or the upper jaw is longer. IMO this is a Batrochoglanis.
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Thx so much guys. Trying to get more pics first as due to work in cannot pick up the fish yet.

Anyway shop owner thinks I'm weird wanting to pass on the Flash Tiger for an unknown cat.

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With apologies to the OP for going a little off topic.
Viktor Jarikov wrote:Also, once someone submits a post, it belongs to the forum, right?
It depends on the specific T&C's of the website - they can be whatever they like. The default position can be argued as mutual copyright. That's to say you own it (and can post it where you like) and the site also owns it (and can do with it as they will). But, for the avoidance of doubt, read the T&Cs...

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Also, once someone submits a post, it belongs to the forum, right?
not entirely; things are changing

I don't know how it's legally fixed in the States, but in Europe the current view is that the material belongs to the author; in this case that is you
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that's why we had that thing with pics snatched from the Catelog and usaed by a Dutch store recently.
those pics are copyrighted by PC, but of course with consent of the owners (!).

in a fair number of cases that turned out to be one and the same because pics made by Jools were used

but if the reply on the Waterwolves-forum is written by you, you are the author and you own what you create.

there's no law forbidding you to post your own 1 story or reply on 2 fora.
so yes, you can put it up here as well

it's a different thing if you copy n paste an entire topic with replies from other people though.

then the other forum does have a fair case to protest.
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And you are allowed to quote other peoples copyrighted text "for purposes of criticism or comment" under "fair use". This of course, does not mean that you can reprint all of John Grisham's novels with a simple comment of "I think this book is great"... It needs to be relevant to show your comment/criticism.

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My friend helped me to collect and take some better pics of the fish.

Pls advice is this Batrochoglanis villosus?



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Nice pics!

Yes, I think so.
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sidguppy wrote:those pics are copyrighted by PC, but of course with consent of the owners (!).
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The.Dark.One wrote:Nice pics!

Yes, I think so.
Thanks. I never kept one of these before.

Anything I should be aware of?
Also what are they like in a community tank?

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elindra wrote:Also what are they like in a community tank?
They are night time predators with a surprising capacity to consume fish - anything half its size or less is a potential meal. Tankmates need to be carefully chosen
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Richard B wrote:
elindra wrote:Also what are they like in a community tank?
They are night time predators with a surprising capacity to consume fish - anything half its size or less is a potential meal. Tankmates need to be carefully chosen
Ok. Pretty much like my Lophiosilurus alexandri then.

I don't think this gets as huge as the L. alexandri and I think it's already at max size at 8 inch?

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elindra wrote:Ok. Pretty much like my Lophiosilurus alexandri then.

I don't think this gets as huge as the L. alexandri and I think it's already at max size at 8 inch?
A bit more active nocturnally but temperment wise , yes, similar. I couldn't be sure of max size but 8" would be the biggest i know of - maybe steve (the dark one) can say how big his friends is.

As long as tankmates are a good size and swift they should be safe.
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Richard B wrote:
elindra wrote:Ok. Pretty much like my Lophiosilurus alexandri then.

I don't think this gets as huge as the L. alexandri and I think it's already at max size at 8 inch?
A bit more active nocturnally but temperment wise , yes, similar. I couldn't be sure of max size but 8" would be the biggest i know of - maybe steve (the dark one) can say how big his friends is.

As long as tankmates are a good size and swift they should be safe.
Thanks for the advice :)
I'll see if Dark One advise how large is his friend's piece

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It may get a bit bigger, say another inch or two, but shouldnt become a monster.
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The.Dark.One wrote:It may get a bit bigger, say another inch or two, but shouldnt become a monster.
Thanks! :)

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Mike_Noren wrote:
sidguppy wrote:those pics are copyrighted by PC, but of course with consent of the owners (!).
Those pics are published by planetcatfish with the consent of the copyright owner. Planetcatfish has no rights to the photo.
Nearly right, but, as I say above, the full detail is in the T&Cs. Anyway, let's get back to this ugly beauty of a fish...

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Received word from my friend his Fly River turtle attacked it and there was a 1" wound but it's still stable and active.

I guess they are pretty hardy.

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