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I'd go with...

School: Broadly the same as a shoal, but is can be used to mean a more compact shoal where all fish have the same orientation and are swimming in close proximty to one another - like the ones forming patterns in the movie Finding Nemo. Usage has a tendency to imply open water marine fish rather than freshwater varieties.

REALLY SORRY, I just edited MatsP's post rather than type in my own. Doing too much at the one time. The post above are my words and, sorry Mats, I seem to have nuked you defn of Shoal in the process!

Jools

Thank God for the browsers cache! Mats originally wrote:

As a result:

Shoal: A group of fish, usually all of the same species, that swim together as a group.

School: Generally the same as a shoal, but is sometimes used to mean a closer shoal where all fish have the same orientation, like the ones forming patterns in the film Nemo. Also more often used with Marine fish rather than Freshwater varieties.



Jools

I like MatsP's and Jools' way of handling those definitions for shoal and school.

The use of Finding Nemo for an example is great, at least for the next few years!

Cheri

Here's the definition I came up with for lateral line:
A sensory canal(which branches into pores) that runs throughout the body of a fish. The lateral line can vary in length depending on the species. The lateral line is important in detecting changes in pressure when a fish moves. Is this agreeable?

Shoal: A group of fish, usually all of the same species, that swim together as a group.

School: Generally the same as a shoal, but is sometimes used to mean a closer shoal where all fish have the same orientation, like the ones forming patterns in the film Nemo. Also more often used with Marine fish rather than Freshwater varieties.

Sounds good to me.
Amanda

Neotype
Holotype
Paratype
Holotype

I would remove the last four words ("when a fish moves") in the lateral line definition.

It's good to go!

On the definition of types:

Holotype - the single specimen (or part of a specimen in the case of fossil taxa) designated as the name bearing type of the species.

Paratype - additional specimens used in the original description of a species. Strictly speaking, a paratype has no name-bearing status (and is technically no different from any other specimen of that species).

Neotype - a name-bearing type designated subsequent to the original description. Neotypes have the same status as holotypes, and are designated to replace holotypes when they are lost and the identity of the species in question is in doubt.

Syntype - multiple specimens designated as name bearing types. Each syntype has equal status as a name-bearing type as its fellow syntypes.

Lectotype - a name bearing type designated from a syntype series. This is done if the syntypes consist of more than one species and the identity of the species in question needs to be fixed. A lectotype has the same status as a holotype/neotype. The rest of the syntype series become paralectotypes and have no name-bearing status.

Topotype - specimens collected from the type locality (where the holotype/syntypes were collected) subsequent to the original description. Topotypes have no name-bearing status (although they are useful as potential neotypes should the holotype be lost).

Thanks, Silurus.

I came up with these 2 that I'd like to run by everybody:
Gill Raker: Projection from the front of the gill arch that helps trap food items. May act as a sort of "dental floss" for Corydoras.

Alarm Substance: Also called Schreckstoff. A compound emitted by some fish species that warns the shoal of eminent danger. Examples: A predator on the prowl or a human with a net could trigger the release of Alarm Substance.

Please feel free to discuss, add, subtract, etc. I appreciate all the assistance.
Amanda

Alarm substance is unique to Ostariophysi (Gonorhynchiformes+Otophysi). It is not released until skin damage occurs (e.g. when a member of the shoal is attacked) and ruptures the specialized cells that produce it. Interestingly, alarm substance shows up in the feces of predatory fish that have eaten ostariophysans, and ostariophysans will show the fright response when exposed to it.

And many catfishes don't use gill rakers much in feeding. Some catfishes do (Hypophthalmus comes to mind), but most don't. Anyways, fishes that use their rakers primarily in feeding (herrings are the best example) have very long rakers and a great many number of them per gill arch.

Then, gill rakers should be put on the back burner for now. Gills would probably be a better place to start. I think I got ahead of myself.

Gills: Respiratory organs of fish.

I'm going to re-write the Alarm Substance def.

From the glossary of Skelton's "A Complete Guide to the Freshwater Fishes of Southern Africa"

alimentary canal: the gut track from the mouth to the anus

anterior: near or towards the front of; the front section

benthic: on or near the bottom

branched ray: a divided, segmented fin ray

branchial: pertaining to the gills

buccal: pertaining to the mouth or cheek

casque: helmut-like structure

compressd: flattened from side to side

dentition: the arrangement of the teeth

depressed: flattened from top to bottom

derived: an advanced state or condition evolved from a more primitive one

distal: furthest away

emarginate: slightly indented edge

euryhaline: tolerant of a wide range of salinities

filamentous: thin and thread-like

gonads: the internal reproductive organs (either testes or ovaries)

inferior: below or underneath, opposite of superior

keel: a narrow hard ridge

lateral: on the side of

lunate: crescent shaped, like a crescent moon

nape: the dorsal part of the body immediately after the head

nuchal: body region behind the head

oviparous: producing eggs that are fertilized, develop, and hatch after being laid

posterior: behind, at or near the end of

potamodromous: migrating in freshwaters

ray: a rod-like fin support

reticulate: forming a network

riffle: shallow rocky river reach with turbulant flowing water

rugose: rough or wrinkled

scute: a shield-like boney plate

truncate: with a straight edge; square cut

turbid: muddy or murky water due to the presence of suspended particles

ventral: on or near the lower surface of the body (underside).

villiform: like fine bristles or velvet

-Shane

Since Jools decided to edit my version, I thought I'd do the same to his [but in a post of my own ], as it's got some minor typos:

School: Broadly the same as a shoal, but is can be used to mean a more compact shoal where all fish have the same orientation and are swimming in close proximty to one another - like the ones forming patterns in the movie Finding Nemo. Usage has a tendency to imply open water marine fish rather than freshwater varieties.

School: Broadly the same as a shoal, but can be used to mean a more compact shoal where all fish have the same orientation and are swimming in close proximty to one another - like the ones forming patterns in the movie Finding Nemo. Usage has a tendency to imply open water marine fish rather than freshwater varieties.

[The difference is a removed "is"].

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Mats

May I throw in my two cents and say that the expression "close proximity" is a tautology?
I suggest just saying "in proximity to" or "very close to" each other. What do you say?

Deborah

Hi Deb,
At first I agreed with you, then I started to wonder whether this is a tautology or a pleonasm and now I think it might be okay after all to indicate the density of such a school.
I do agree with your spelling of proximity ; this should be corrected.
The removed "is" from Mats' post was meant to be "it" imo.

Marc, I see what you mean. You're picking up on the slight idiomatic quality of the pleonasm in the expression "close proximity."

Therefore, while I still prefer my version, in this case, where you wish to emphasize the "tightness" and single-mindedness of the group, I will yield to your preference!

About this:

The removed "is" from Mats' post was meant to be "it" imo.

I'm sure you're right.

Deborah

Thanks for all that, Shane!

Here's the re-write of Alarm Substance:
"Also called Schreckstoff. A compound unique to certain fish known as Ostariophysi. When the skin of an Ostariophysi is damaged, special cells rupture and release Alarm Substance, warning other members of the shoal of imminent danger."

How does that flowwwwwww. Or not.
Amanda

I would modify it to read:

â??Also called Schreckstoff. A compound unique to a group of fishes known as the Ostariophysi (which includes catfishes). When the skin of an ostariophysan is damaged, special cells rupture and release Alarm Substance, warning other members of the shoal of imminent danger.â?

In it goes!

I cross-referenced Shane's new list of words from Skelton's "A Complete Guide To The Freshwater Fishes Of Southern Africa" to two other books:Peterson Field Guides:"Freshwater Fishes" and National Audobon Society "Field Guide To Fishes, North America." Here are the words that are very close in definition(some are identical):
Anterior
Compressed
Depressed
Keel
Lunate
Nape
Posterior
Ray
Truncate
Turbid
It will be difficult to re-write the above. Is it okay to go with the definitions as they are? Please let me know.
Thanks,
Amanda

I do not see why not. You can certainly provide the citations.
-Shane

Thanks, Shane.

I've found multiple meanings for the word "inferior" for our purposes. Not only does it have the definition from Skelton, but I've also found that it can mean a "downward-slung mouth." The opposite kind of mouth is "terminus." I've seen this contradicted, though. Some sources site "terminus" as just meaning a mouth. Others say "terminus" means an upward-slung mouth and "inferior" means a downward-slung mouth. Any insight?
Amanda

The following terms refer to mouth orientation:

Inferior - directed downwards

Terminal - directed forwards, i.e. at the tip of the snout

Subterminal - somewhere in between inferior and terminal. A lot of catfishes have subterminal mouths

Superior - directed upwards

Some breeding terms:
Inbreeding: Breeding close relatives (mother/father x son/daughter, siblings with each other). This is generally considered bad breeding practice as it reduces the variability of the genetics and increases the risk of genetic deformities, etc. It is often used by breeders that try to create specific forms, such as long fins or colour morphs (cf. albino, melanistic, etc)

Linebreeding: A form of inbreeding where the parents are related, but not really closely (i.e. not brother x sister or parent x offspring).

Outcrossing: Adding new blood from an unrelated source - generally used in conjunction with inbreeding/linebreeding to reduce the problems caused by reduced genetic diversity.

Crossbreeding: Similar to outcrossing, but can also be used to indicate different strains or even species being used for parents. Obviously, different species creates a hybrid (see this word).

Anyone for any more?

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Mats

Here's one that we haven't got yet:

adipose - means fatty or from fat, and in catfish terms, it is used to refer to the small posterior fin that is behind the dorsal fin (but in front of the caudal) on many catfish - as well as several other types of fish: tetras, salmon family.


Comments welcome...

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Mats

Here's one that needs defined for the glossary.

What, exactly, is "rostrum" as it relates to catfish? I don't think of catfish as having a beak or a beak-like projection--which is the common scientific definition.

Cheri

Rostrum is just another term for snout.

MatsP wrote:Here's one that we haven't got yet:
adipose - means fatty or from fat, and in catfish terms, it is used to refer to the small posterior fin that is behind the dorsal fin (but in front of the caudal) on many catfish - as well as several other types of fish: tetras, salmon family.

I would get rid of the word "small", simply because some fish have rather large adipose fins.
Also the brackets may be removed, as well as the part behind catfish, thus making the sentence:
... is used to refer to the fin that sits between the dorsal and caudal fin in many catfishes. An adipose fin can also be found in characins, like tetras. Most cyprinids, like goldfish, don't have one.

Just a suggestion.

Drop the "in catfish terms", because adipose fins are not unique to catfishes. The definition should strictly cover the term "adipose fin", not the word "adipose".