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Not correct I am afraid, I could have thought of a much better clue for that species!

Jools

hehe
the infamous British kitchen and their amazing collection of gross inedible foul tasting yucky stuff

this one looks like one of those fatty sausages.....


at 1 time I ordered a "British breakfast" when I was in Thailand 2 years ago

that was the only time when I didn't finish my meal, cause they did a really good job of it

amazing, since their local food was good enough to miss cutlery afterwards; just ate it

gaaaaa

no wonder most British folk look so decidedly unhealthy with skin pallor as if they crawled out under a rock the day before yesterday
when in the UK I'll bring my own food

Jools wrote:New species: I like a higher pH than 8 and I look a bit like what some east Londoners might consider a fishy delicacy.

There are just 5 species in the clog wrt that pH level and none of those look like porpoise, dolphin or seal (quote: And, on ‘Fish Days’ in the 16th century, East Enders would feast on porpoise, dolphin and seal).

I think it is a fairly later delicacy of East end in London:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vargapeter/266351075/

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Mats

maybe the jelly is a clue...

if it is, then it's probably a Lophiobagrus species, because these can secrete a LOT of jelly-like slime when stressed or caught in a net

a single Lophiobagrus in a small jar can turn the water into jelly; the end result is a jar full of jelly and 1 dead fish.

since Lophiobagrus cyclurus is by far the better known species my gamble is on that 1:
here goes: jelly fish!


about catelog data:
strange btw that the pH for cyclurus is different from brevispinis, but both species are from the same habitat....

also the breeding data for cyclurus don't match; it is NOT a mouthbrooder and it shows the same bi-parental breeding care that brevispinis does

I've bred both species and the way of spawning them is exactly the same.

the one exception is that it's much harder to get a matching pair of the cyclurus, due to their strong intraspecific agression


in brevispinis a male anmd a female are a pair.
in cyclurus a male and a female are most likely 1 fish harassing or killing the other, regardless of tanksize, unless with sheer luck, they match and pair off.

my own experience was that only the fourth attempt resulted in a matching pair and those were F1 fishes
I never got a matching pair from wildcaught cyclurus.

Sidguppy's gotta be right with the Jellied Fish but I like this one just because of it's description.


"Lophiobagrus: The name comes from the broad, depressed anterior region of the fish, which reminded Poll of the angler fish (Lophius piscatorius). "
Saggy-bummed Anglo fish. Saggy-faced Anglo fish? Either way it describes my English relatives...Saggy, flatish jowls? I just can't see it on the fish with my inexperienced eyeballs... Cute fish though.

I thought the foodstuff reference was to "jellied eels", so was looking for a thin eel-like fish whose pH range exceeded 8...therefore a clariid from tanganyika......?

Hehehe, I knew those clues would throw you off. The delicacy of London is fishy not mammalian - if people in here started eating dolphins there would be anarchy in the UK! Lake Tanganyika is not the only body of water with a higher pH and eel like fishes, there are many more fishes in the sea.

This is not a pretty fish.

Jools

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Richard B wrote:

Cnidoglanis macrocephalus

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Nicely done, that's correct. It's an eel like fish, lives in ph>8. The extra clue was "Anarchy in the UK" that should lead you to "sid" which is, phonetically, the beginning of this fishes name.

Jools

When you said it wasn't pretty - & there were plenty more fish in the sea , i instantly thought of the pic in axelrods atlas of this species - a face only a mother (or catfish fan) could love.

New fish:

My genus is in PC but the species you are after is not

I have quite remarkable barbels which give me my name (you might think i clean my teeth with them Lothar).

Right then i'm off to deliver Mats' fish so will be offline for a bit (this is not part of the clue).

Jools wrote:

Richard B wrote:

Cnidoglanis macrocephalus

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The extra clue was "Anarchy in the UK" that should lead you to "sid" which is, phonetically, the beginning of this fishes name.

Afaik, Cn is pronounced as "N", which would sound as Needoglanis. Btw: the data sheet confirms this. No big deal however.
Anyway, how come the Clog seach option doesn't come up with this fish when entering PH min 8 and PH max 9 ?

Because if you give a max and a min for temp or pH, it limits the list to those fish that are tolerant of both ends of the spectrum. Since this fish is at 8-8.6, it will be excluded from the "9.0" that you give as an upper limit. If you give 8-8.5 in the range, it will list it.

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Mats

Richard B wrote:My genus is in PC but the species you are after is not. I have quite remarkable barbels which give me my name (you might think i clean my teeth with them Lothar).

I was first thinking of Synodontis annectens, but that turned out to be in the Clog. Atm I fail to see the barbels clue, yet with Lothar and teeth I'd like to go for Synodontis polyodon (not in the Clog and many teeth to clean ).
Unless it's no Syno at all

Cnidoglanis ugly???



i guess it's all in the eye of the beholder; IMO this is a very good looking catfish......

who is Lothar?

the only Lothar I know if was a German football player and also the subject of many rowdy hooligan singalongs.

sidguppy wrote:who is Lothar? the only Lothar I know if was a German football player and also the subject of many rowdy hooligan singalongs.

Not Lothar Matthäus, but Lothar Seegers (Die Welse Afrikas)

sidguppy wrote:Cnidoglanis ugly???

I didn't say it was ugly, I said it wasn't pretty. Let's then agree it's a very handsome character?

Jools

Not a syno..but the correct Lothar! It would appear that i'm quite rare in the lake that i inhabit, or at least difficult to catch?

Oh crap, there aren't any Bathybagrus in the Clog.......

70 dorsal rays, 51 anal rays, 79cm long, easily removed black mucus.....

Oh crap, there aren't any Bathybagrus in the Clog.......

yup

that's because Lothar lists all Tanganyikan Chrysichthys species as Bathybagrus; while the catelog lists those fish as Chrysichthys.

Marc van Arc wrote:Bathyclarias filicibarbis

Well done - we have the answer

New riddle:

1) Half of my genus name refers to a character that plays a sigificant role in a play that had its debut on 27 December 1904
2) The other (smaller) half refers to itself
3) My colour is the same as that of the clothes worn by the most important character of the above play (or animation/film)
4) I have a cousin that looks like me; the (smaller) half of his genus name resembles that of the writer of the book the above play/animation/films were based on

Who am I?

more artistry and this time over a 100 years ago.....


I'm SO gonna pass on this one.....

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torbanite:

Hemiancistrus subviridis?

I looked at that one but can't figure out who the 'cousin' might be. I thought the first one would have 'Pan' in it and maybe baryancistrus as the cousin (writer)?

Sidguppy:

more artistry and this time over a 100 years ago.....

Google the date "27 December 1904"

I'm at a dead end one this one too.