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Is this Liposarcus pardalis?

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Is this Liposarcus pardalis?

Postby Caol_ila » Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:58 pm

Hi!

From a german forum...
http://www.l-welse.com/forum/index.php? ... c=1567&hl=
i think its Liposarcus pardalis...

Any expert opinions?
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Postby Silurus » Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:05 pm

i think its Liposarcus pardalis


No doubt about it.
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Postby Yann » Mon Sep 29, 2003 8:35 pm

Hi!

Yeap !
I totally agree with you. Liposarcus pardalis!
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Postby Caol_ila » Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:04 pm

Very interestingly 8!! of these were sold as L188 telling they buyer they wouldnt grow too large... :shock:
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Postby Silurus » Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:06 pm

I hope the buyer didn't pay an L-number price for the fish.
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Postby Caol_ila » Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:20 pm

No they didnt but still its pretty bad to realize at home to have a bunch of these "monsters" sitting in the tank...since i mistakenly bought a chocolate pl*co i always check the dorsal fin before i buy a fish that i dont know...
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Re: Smb doesnt know what this is...

Postby Sari » Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:19 pm

Caol_ila wrote:i think its Liposarcus pardalis...


Could somebody help me out on this: I've always wondered when somebody has a "common pl*co" and mostly it is being identified as Liposarcus pardalis here. However, where I live (Finland), most commons are said to be Liposarcus multiradiatus. Why's that? What's the difference with these - or is there any? - how to tell them apart and why would it be so that in different parts the species vary (yes, due to imports of course, but most imports are centralised in Europe, I would think)?

And why L. multiradiatus is not featured in the cat-e-log at all?

I used to have a common (L. multiradiatus - I always thought), but she just died in August at the age of (appr.) 12 years with a tumor. She was examined (and put to sleep) at the local laboratory and diagnosed otherwise very healthy female, but with a large benigne tumor on her side.
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Postby Silurus » Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:44 pm

Liposarcus multiradiatus is said to have a more curved dorsal profile and a head with a pattern of small irregular spots, while L. pardalis is said to have flatter dorsal profile, larger eye, and the head with the spots forming a reticulate patern.
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Postby Jools » Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:57 pm

Not very scientific, but <I>L. multiradiatus</I> is a little browner too.

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Postby Sari » Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:32 pm

OK guys, so you tell me which one was mine?
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Postby Silurus » Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:33 pm

L. pardalis
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Postby doctorzeb » Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:53 pm

A little irrelevant, but in the german forum link above, what is the L-number "andi" shows in his avatar.

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Postby Jools » Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:54 pm

doctorzeb wrote:A little irrelevant, but in the german forum link above, what is the L-number "andi" shows in his avatar.

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A very nice LDA01 I think.

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Postby doctorzeb » Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:01 pm

Blimey, :shock:

Never seen one with such stong and solid colouration.
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Postby Sari » Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:43 pm

Silurus wrote:L. pardalis


So I guess I should say "blimey" as well...
For 12 years I thought I had a multiradiatus. Who, by the way, was always called Mister and then in the "autopsy report" noted as female. So full of surprises after death.
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Postby Caol_ila » Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:03 am

@sari Sad that your fish died like this but how much did this autopsy costs?
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Postby Sari » Thu Oct 02, 2003 7:30 am

Caol_ila wrote:@sari Sad that your fish died like this but how much did this autopsy costs?


Yes, it was extremely painful to lose such an old friend, but in the end the tumor kept growing so I had to put end to her life. Couldn't do it myself (such a big fish!) and also wanted to know for sure what was wrong, so I delivered her to EELA, which is the National Veterinary and Food Research Institute here in Helsinki and they did the research. Examining 3 aquarium fish (brought together) costs only about 21 â?¬ so it's not much and at least then you know for sure.

They have their website also in English, although not all the pages, so if you're looking for more info, check: http://www.eela.fi/en/index.html
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