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What's my Mystus: pics from 2010, 2012, 2015

Posted: 05 Aug 2012, 03:23
by Viktor Jarikov
When I bought him I thought he is an albino version of the commonly sold (and cheap) . He was like $5.

Here are the pics from 2010 at 2.5":

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 05 Aug 2012, 03:25
by Viktor Jarikov
Here he is today at about 10".

After two years and some months, I got to see this fish again (http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... =4&t=36786).

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 05 Aug 2012, 03:25
by Viktor Jarikov
one more...

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 05 Aug 2012, 06:14
by Shovelnose
I think. Does the caudal fin have filamentous extensions???

If it is, you should be delighted. It goes well with your signature. :-BD

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 05 Aug 2012, 12:41
by Viktor Jarikov
Thanks Balaji! I think you are right. It looks awfully close to the Cat-eLog pics. Yes, there can be seen some extensions - they are small and barely visible on the Cat-elog pics too... and not all of the pics show the extensions either.

I had a feeling it might be one of the larger Bagrids but your ID does indeed delight me. If the ID is right, I don't know why it is growing so slowly - I'd expect at least a foot in the first year.

My signature is ambiguous. It can be about fish... or it can be about tanks and proper housing... or it can be even about a heart... or faith ;)

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 05 Aug 2012, 14:21
by Shovelnose
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The specimen I used to keep did have the extensions. Is it not aggressive??? I kept mine alone.

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 05 Aug 2012, 19:59
by Viktor Jarikov
Thanks much, again.

When it was small and in a tank, I did not see any signs of aggression from him. When he's been in a big outside pond for 1.5 years, he always had his corner/spot and usually was alone in it but I have never seen him chase any other fish out of it... or even in general chase any other fish. He looked like a meek loner.

My channels grew from 5" to 1.5' and 7 lbs in the same 1.5 years in the same pond. There were Zungaro zungaro and TSNxLeiarius in the pond (both ~15"). There was a blue channel cat, ~ same size as the channels; three fully grown 10" , two other fully grown ~10" Chrysichthys, which look like , a fully grown walking cat, five 10" sun cats (http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... =4&t=36786) but this guy never had any damage, not a scuff mark from what limited observations I could make. So, I assume he has held his own pretty good.

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 10:25
by Shovelnose
I guess the size and demeanor of the tankmates made him behave.

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 13:27
by Viktor Jarikov
I think he is still too small. Was yours aggressive at small sizes? (You gave him away, if my memory serves, right?)

All my wykiis were the same way. Even when they grew to 1.0'-1.5' I didn't see them being aggressive towards other fish in my pond in Rochester, NY, only towards each other. They defended themselves superbly from far bigger and predatory TSNs etc.

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 07 Aug 2012, 04:17
by Shovelnose
Yup. I dropped him in a pond. I never kept mine with any other fish as I read about their aggression in multiple places. I don't think the Mystus would have survived. I did see some lovely Hemibagrus wyckii or H.wyckioides here a few months ago.

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 07 Aug 2012, 04:40
by Silurus
I think aggression in Hemibagrus is a function of the size of the enclosure they are kept in. In a large enough system (e.g. pond), they would be typically less aggressive, since they would have less of a need to defend their territory.

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 07 Aug 2012, 13:02
by Viktor Jarikov
Thanks, HH. It would appear to me that the territories of my two wyckiis were but two halves of a 10 gal clay pot in my 40'x6'x3' pond. Yet, they would almost never come out of there in my presence how ever (in)discrete...

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 20 Feb 2015, 23:00
by Viktor Jarikov
Shovelnose wrote:The specimen I used to keep did have the extensions...
Mine has the extensions too, I can see now that he is in a tank. And beautiful snow white edge on its adipose. And elegant white spotting on his pectorals. I'll try to get more good pics. For now, he can be seen in Tank 1 (6 videos): http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... &start=180 (page 10)

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010 and 2012

Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 20:47
by Viktor Jarikov
Well, good pics I have failed to get. Here is the best so far. He is still at ~1'. Has been for ~5 years. Not growing anymore but feeds quite well on both dry and flesh.

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010, 2012, 2015

Posted: 04 Mar 2015, 17:19
by Viktor Jarikov
Some more marginally better pics:

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010, 2012, 2015

Posted: 04 Mar 2015, 17:19
by Viktor Jarikov
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Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010, 2012, 2015

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 03:06
by Viktor Jarikov
A couple more shots in 240 gal. Sorry, the quality is still bad, no time to play.

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010, 2012, 2015

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 16:38
by Viktor Jarikov
It's been very easy to feed. A good tank mate, nothing of the wyckii or wyckioides kind. Grew from 2" to 1' in about 1.5-2 years and stopped completely there. It's been 4 years or so since it remained the same size. They are farmed in Asia and it looks like my farm boy (or girl) is a cull, failing to reach its supposed max size of 2'+.

It's very relaxed and likes swimming around day or night and checking everything out. Quite active, again in complete opposition to wyckii and wyckioides.

In the 7 years I've had it, I saw it eat a 3" koi once when they were in a 1500 gal pond. Never before nor after has it done it, although it could. In the same pond I saw it chase other fish from its spot (that was ~3 years ago) but the spot was small and the chasing was not vicious and everyone complied anyway. Funny enough, it has not done the chasing ever before or after, again. It ate the koi exactly the same time. I think it had an episode. Maybe a teenage meltdown that came and went.

It has been in a 4500 gal for a year or more now, a model, upstanding citizen, not a scratch on it but never fighting anyone else. The activity you will see here is typical. It also takes rests in the center on the bottom in between these rather energetic swimming laps.


Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010, 2012, 2015

Posted: 29 Dec 2016, 22:31
by Silurus
I've long thought that Hemibagrus aren't aggressive fish if you give them enough room.

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010, 2012, 2015

Posted: 31 Dec 2016, 01:30
by Viktor Jarikov
Thanks, HH. Even wyckii and wyckioides? I thought I was confined to keeping my wyckioides, currently at 16", alone for life.

Re: What's my Mystus: pics from 2010, 2012, 2015

Posted: 15 Sep 2020, 16:52
by Viktor Jarikov
What Silurus said held true in my experience indeed. My wyckioides grew to 3' in that 4500 gal and was a complete sweetheart. I lost it though to an unknown and non-identifiable cause at 5 years of age.

Our wyckii now resides in that 4500 gal and has mellowed up a LOT but not 100% like the wyckioides had done.

The nemurus, sadly, disappeared at some point in that 4500 gal. That was about 2 years ago. I think I upgraded our 3' arapaima too late.