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Sold as L106 but it's not?

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this is tough one for me.. but someone here must have seen these before.. was sold as L106, but I'm not sure that's correct? they're pretty flat looking, not that shy, and pattern/colour variable depending on mood..
can anyone help identify?
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Re: Sold as L106 but it's not?

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Hi all,
I'll set the ball rolling. What about
Delturus sp(l238)
?

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L122
?

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Pseudancistrus orinoco
? (I don't see any orange seam on the tail or fins)
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bekateen wrote: ↑19 Feb 2017, 22:03
Pseudancistrus orinoco
? (I don't see any orange seam on the tail or fins)
Wow, yes, that's a good shout.

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They are Lithoxancistrus orinoco. I found one on Sunday and had my id confirmed by Nathan Lujan on my Facebook group.

It's not in Pseudancistrus now according to Nathan
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The.Dark.One wrote: ↑21 Feb 2017, 21:01 They are Lithoxancistrus orinoco. I found one on Sunday and had my id confirmed by Nathan Lujan on my Facebook group.

It's not in Pseudancistrus now according to Nathan
It was your ID from Nathan that gave me the tip that this was orinoco. Thanks! :-)

But on that note, do we know of the publication that establishes the generic reassignment? (I should have asked Nathan previously on FB). I know the Catalog of Fishes is not always up to date, but the COF lists Lithoxancistrus orinoco as a synonym and Pseudancistrus orinoco as the valid name. Thanks in advance.

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It was my ID, confirmed by Nathan ;)

Not sure of source for genera change. Might be something Nathan is working on
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Here it is

Silva, G. S. C., F. F. Roxo, R. Britzke and C. Oliveira 2014
New species of the Pseudancistrus barbatus group (Siluriformes, Loricariidae) with comments on its biogeography and dispersal routes. ZooKeys No. 406: 1-23.
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The.Dark.One wrote: ↑21 Feb 2017, 21:25 It was my ID, confirmed by Nathan ;)

Not sure of source for genera change. Might be something Nathan is working on
It might be Nathan's own paper from 2015: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 0314003054
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Re: Sold as L106 but it's not?

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The 2014 paper classed it as Lithoxancistrus
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thx darkone and everyone else, you guys are good!
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Re: Sold as L106 but it's not?

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Good stuff, thanks Steve.

I think this means the generic placement change is stable enough - I've made that change. Also trying to source more info / pics on L. yekuana which appears to be sympatric and so could also turn up.

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