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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-20 spawns in 60 days)

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Conglatulaltions bekateen.
Can i give my L397 earthworm. Thanks.

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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-20 spawns in 60 days)

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Thank you. I've never fed earthworms to fish, but I know people who have. Since L397 like blackworms, they may eat earthworms. I know other people chop their earthworms to pieces first, before feeding. That means (obviously) the worms will be dead and any uneaten food will rot. Be ready to remove the uneaten food... I don't know how long to wait, a few hours or overnight at most.

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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-21 spawns in 60 days)

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I started finding this explosion of spawns back on December 5th, with the discovery of two Ancistrus spawns. Sixty days from December 5th was yesterday, February 3rd. Well, as reported HERE, I found one more Dekeyseria picta (L052) spawn yesterday, bringing my total spawns to 21 found in the 60 days. \:d/

The final count now is this: From December 5th to February 3rd, I've found in my tanks: I am overrun with fry for now, even though I lost two spawns entirely (spawn #2 of the Ancistrus sp. wabenmuster and one of the two recent spawns of L397); the former didn't develop and the latter was lost because some rough play by the plecos in the tank caused the cave to dip downward; I presume the dad physically lost control of the eggs and they rolled out, then got eaten. I also lost a lot of the claro fry as they developed and many of the "early to hatch" Dekeyseria fry died, although those that hatched later have done well.

Regardless of those losses, I'm still thrilled with the fishes' accomplishments. They were wonderful. I might have had more, but after the fourth Ancistrus sp. Rio Ucayali spawn, I got rid of the spawning fish and now I have none old enough to spawn again. But had I kept them, I am confident they would have spawned again at least once or even twice more (I did not need that).

My next task is to tear down the tank housing my Microsynodontis sp(1) and find out exactly how many fry are in the tank. So far, I've seen only one.

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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-21 spawns in 60 days)

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@bekateen

I have two words of advice for you: Fin Land

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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-21 spawns in 60 days)

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TwoTankAmin wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:46 am
On a more practical level, if you were willing to ship fish, you could move a lot that way. Maybe you can find a young fish padawan to handle your shipping? One might even be willing to work for fish?
TTA, I have worked with someone to ship fish for me in the past. I'm not utterly opposed to the idea. But I haven't made the leap to shipping for many reasons, not the least of which is that I charge so little for my L397, that I am not willing to offer shipping DOA terms to people. The fish are alive and healthy when handed off from me to the buyer, and since the buyers are local, I know if fish really do die quickly due to health at hand-off or due to my bagging; only then am I quite ready to replace the fish. But on shipping? No dice.

That said, I may change my mind in the future. Nothing is certain in life except taxes and death and God, although some people would take issue with me on... death. =)) (not what you expected me to say, was it? :)) )
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I have two words of advice for you: Fin Land
If I ever open a store, I'll keep that choice at the top of my list. ;-)

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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-24 spawns in 72 days)

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Feb 15, I found another "first" spawn for me: Ancistrus sp`Rio_Paraguay`. This, added to two more Ancistrus sp`Wabenmuster` spawns, brings me to 24 spawns in 72 days.

Cheers Eric

The new count now is this: From December 5th to February 15th, I've found in my tanks:
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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-24 spawns in 72 days)

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Dang, the little (45mm SL) male Rio Paraguay lost or kicked out his eggs this morning. The egg mass doesn't look great, which in my experience is not uncommon for first spawns, but hopefully some eggs survive. After recovering the egg mass and putting it in a fry basket to incubate, I used a pipette to suction the live black worms out of the egg mass. I don't know if the worms cause harm, but I don't want to risk it.
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This Rio Paraguay egg mass never looked great, but I'm relieved that half the eggs are decent looking.

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First Ancistrus sp. Rio Paraguay egg hatched tonight. Still 2 or 3 good eggs remaining. Fingers crossed!

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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-25 spawns in 78 days)

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Reported here (viewtopic.php?f=13&t=47989&p=322729#p322729), I just had another first spawn occurred overnight: Rineloricaria eigenmanni. My first Loricariinae! \:d/

That makes 25 spawns in 78 days.

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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-27 spawns in 81 days)

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Two more spawns: Monday morning I discovered the Dekeyseria picta L052 spawned over Sunday, and Monday evening the L201 big spot spawned again.
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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-27 spawns in 81 days)

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On Feb 26, Ancistrus claro spawned again - 28 spawns in 83 days.
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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-30 spawns in 3 months

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And two more spawns yesterday and today:
  • Hypancistrus debilittera (my first spawn from these after a couple of years of inactivity)
  • Rineloricaria eigenmanni
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30 spawns in 3 months: I'm sure we're not done yet, because the Ancistrus sp. Rio Paraguay and the Dekeyseria picta have both been trapping on-and-off for several days now. Any moment... :-)
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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-33 spawns in 14 weeks

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Before I write this next update, let me first say I realize this might be getting annoying after a while or seem like bragging; but I do not mean it to be so. I thought about stopping the reports, but frankly I'm just blown away at the spawning going on in these tanks right now. Since 5 December, I'm averaging 1 new spawn every 3 days. I continue to report because I'm wondering when it will end and I've decided to ride it until the success breaks. I'm also looking for any patterns that might emerge. So far, I've noticed that the minimum spawn interval for my L052 is 12-14 days (also reported
here).

I hope you don't mind sharing the ride. :-)


Three more spawns over the weekend: Saturday night a new spawn from my Panaqolus maccus. Monday morning I arrived at work to find a new spawn (my 6th) from Dekeyseria picta (L052). Monday eve I came home from work to find a new spawn (my 6th) from the small Ancistrus sp`wabenmuster`.

33 spawns in less than 14 weeks. \:d/

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Great well done buddy!

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Thanks, @Baardman. :cheers:
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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-34 spawns in 14 weeks

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Another spawn Thursday (spawn #34): Ancistrus claro again. Apparently she's still in the cave and I interrupted them. Lights off, fast! :))

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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-34 spawns in 14 weeks

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Hi,
Amazing set of spawns, the fish must be in top condition. Id be interested in water conditions/feeding regime?
If you do decide to ship, please let me know as I would be interested in some of your offspring. Happy to take the risk with some of them at the kind of prices that you are asking for.
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characinkid wrote:
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Hi,
Amazing set of spawns, the fish must be in top condition. Id be interested in water conditions/feeding regime?
If you do decide to ship, please let me know as I would be interested in some of your offspring. Happy to take the risk with some of them at the kind of prices that you are asking for.
Thanks
Thanks. Aquarium water conditions vary tank by tank, and are published in my BLOG reports. I do not ship, but I do plan to bring offspring that make it to sellable size to the All Aquarium Catfish Convention next October. Will you be there?

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Re: 13 spawns in 6 weeks: It doesn't get much better than this (for me, anyway... oh wait, it does-37 spawns in 15 weeks

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#CoronavirusSexyTime! During the last week I found two more L397 spawns and today this: Free-ranging babies in my "toilet flush" tank. Probably more Dekeyseria picta. I've been grabbing every egg clutch I've seen to hatch the fry in baskets, because I'm concerned that the tank is too violent for the fry and might be challenging for feeding. But today I found over 40 fry, about half way through their yolk sacs. Based on their maturity, I estimate the parents must have spawned about 14-16 days ago.

37 spawns in 15 weeks! :-BD

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