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Adding A Second Spawning Report

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I added a spawning report yesterday for my sturisoma festivum but today the group have produced a second clutch of eggs. I can't see how I add a second report, only how to edit the first. Is there a way to do this?
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There isn't a way to do this at present. It is something that's has both been mentioned before and I think I'd like to do something about. However it would be entering some dates rather than multiple entire spawning reports.
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Thank you for your reply. Being able to enter dates would be useful perhaps to establish spawning frequency.
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Perhaps it could be more than simply multiple dates? For example, if in the future the data will ever be mined (e.g., to create an integrated data set for variables such as ideal pH, temp, etc.,... Like this: Enhancement idea: Can we create a Summary BLOG for spp. with multiple BLOG entries?*), then it would be helpful to know whether the first spawning was 20 eggs and occurred at pH 6.4, but the second spawning was 50 eggs and occurred at pH 7.6, etc. Currently, I am recording that info (dates, # eggs, etc.) in the text fields of my BLOGs, and I'm just adding the different pH, hardness, etc., values into the range which I already provided for the first spawning. But when pH, hardness, etc., are in the text fields, they would not be easily extracted for data mining. And just offering a single range to represent the various values of pH, etc, doesn't reveal if a particular pH was more common than any other in the range. For example, 5 spawnings at pH 6.4 and 1 spawning at pH 7.0 would clearly show that lower pH is better, but just saying pH between 6.4 and 7.0 doesn't tell you if the fish have a preference within that span.

Can multiple spawning reports be handled in a fashion similar to the way that multiple populations are handled in the Registered Keepers? Thus just as a person can click on the "Add to My Cats" cats link to create a new population, perhaps there could be a "Create a BLOG report" link which is kept separate from other pre-existing BLOGs for the same user for the same species?

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* Gee whiz, what a nifty idea! ;-) :d =))
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With my Farlowellas (yes, I know I keep going on about these but I'm proud of them!) I've probably had about 10-15 spawns but there have been several different experiences with them, including whether one or both males have been involved, how many (if any) of the eggs have hatched, and how well the fry have done with my various (and hopefully improving) husbandry input.
I've tried to document most of this on my forum thread because it's not really practical within the spawning report.
A particular example would be the sizes/growth rates of the fry which depend very much on my (developing) feeding techniques.
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Hi Jools,

I noticed recently that you've added an enhancement to the BLOG data pages where we have some fields at the top of the page to record multiple spawns. This is a wonderful addition, thank you...

And now I confess my ignorance: How do we use these fields (inside the red circle on the image below)? They appear to be file selection boxes where we can click the "Browse buttons and choose files to reflect our multiple spawns. But what kind of files are you looking for here? Images? Text? Spreadsheets? Also, I don't understand how the descriptive text above these boxes pertains to these boxes; it seems like it doesn't if I'm understanding it correctly.

Finally, is the "m" (inside the green circle on the image below) a typo or is it supposed to be something more?
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Thanks for moving on this (the multiple spawns thing).

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Ah, I wish it were so, this is a layout bug. These are the image upload boxes for some reason they are in the wrong place...

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Okay, thanks for explaining. Maybe next time! ;-)

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Jools,
This is just a question, that I'm posting here, I'm aware it may need to be asked somewhere else though, I just updated a recent spawning report, as it didn't result in any fry. I then had to make a change again, as I'd mistakenly put the wrong age in for the adults. Are the points added each time something is added to it? Just it somehow doesn't feel right if i got those points, if they are given each time. (also given that i bungled it, as it was my first time, as were the fish, when I was attempting raising the eggs myself) .
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Hi Teresa,

The points are not straight forward,they are funny that way.

As far as I can tell, you don't gain points by replacing preexisting data. Okay, so that's not the peculiar part. What is odd is that you can actually lose points if you add certain info, or so I have seen: In regards the food choices, when i started filling out my first blogs, I listed all the food I ever fed the fish (not specially what I was feeding them before the spawning). So I would have 5 or 6 foods listed in one blog. Then I removed some food because I thought it was misleading, and my score went up. When I noticed this, I added my old food back and my score went down again. I expect this is a fluke in the code and not intentional, but it's not a big deal.

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I cant remember exactly, how many points it was, I'd expect you would only get the points once, not counting any further updates, on the spawns taking place on the same date. But it appeared i was awarded them per update. However, if it was a new date recorded for a subsequent spawn, then the points would be given again.
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I've just checked out my blog on the Clog page, only one set of points. So now I've just found out the answer to my question.
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Jools wrote:Ah, I wish it were so, this is a layout bug. These are the image upload boxes for some reason they are in the wrong place...
What had happened with these file selection input boxes was that simply I had gotten about 75% of the way through the layout refresh for this page and then stopped for some reason! The new layout for that page is now complete. I only have a few more to do on the breeding log side of things and that will be another job finally done. yay!

Anyway, if you want to discuss ranking points, please start another thread, I would be happy to explain it all there if there isn't one already in existence.

This thread can now go back to being about multiple spawning reports. A big amendment, but one that a lot of folks have asked about over the years.

Cheers,

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Thanks Jools, for the advice to start another thread, re ranking points. I was aware this may have not been the right thread to ask it in, as i wasn't sure that this was part of the changes. This was my first blog, but it seems my question has been answered. If i find need more info I will run a forum search, failing this, i will start a thread.
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