Marc's fish room build

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Lycosid wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:55 pmI have come to despise convict cichlids.
I think many people have. :))

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Lycosid wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:55 pm Apparently I've missed some updates here. Quick comments:
I've also had fish swim through uplift tubes into the space behind Mattenfilters. For glass catfish I've jammed a slice of plastic into the tube, splitting it into two halves which are each small enough that the catfish doesn't want to go through anymore. Convict cichlid fry also love to swim through uplift tubes. Eventually I just let their water level drop so the water dropped a short distance out of the uplifts. (I have come to despise convict cichlids.) A proper solution to this would be excellent.

I've also stripped bark on logs. A draw knife works wonderfully. Not the easiest thing to find, but I have one for other reasons and it works great.
Good idea with the piece of plastic in the lift tube, I'll keep thinking about a more permanent solution.

I did consider buying a draw knife, it'd certainly have made stripping the bark easier, if I make more of the caves in future, then I'll get one, it wasn't a fun process stripping the bark without one!
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Enjoyed reading your thread. I am considering rain water collection as I have just recently had a metal roof installed.
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Before you start to put fishes in that wate,r be certain there is no kopper or zinc in the metal. THose metals are commonly used but highly toxic for fishes
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Thanks fishguy, as Bas mentioned, be sure to check what metal the roof is made from before using any for fish.
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Thanks, I will double check the materials.
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Hi Marc,

Really enjoyed reading your thread what a fantastic job on the fish room.Im a big fan of Pier and have purchased my 8 l046 over the last 18 months in ones and twos.

Can I ask what is your tap water is like where you are. I’m in the Trafford area of Manchester and use just an hma filter for all water needs.

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Hi Elhank,

Welcome to Planet Catfish!

Thanks for reading through the thread, glad you enjoyed it. The tap water here is hard, it's actually been a while since I tested it, usually coming out at a TDS of ~300ppm, pH of ~7.8, one of my main concerns is that I have 40ppm of nitrate in my tap water. That along with the hardness is what led me to move to cutting rain or RO with a smaller amount of tap water.

I believe around Manchester the water is much softer?
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Hi Marc,

Thanks for the reply. I think I’m lucky with my tap water

Ph 7
Kh 0
Nitrate 0

Reason I asked was the problem you were having with fungus on eggs.Did you get to the bottom of this?

I don’t have a tds meter.

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I haven't got to the bottom of that unfortunately, some of my thoughts which I haven't tested yet are:

Something in the water - I would hope unlikely due to the small amount of tap water I use which is filtered through an HMA system first. If it is this, it's probably something I couldn't test for/detect in a home setting. I am trying to increase the amount of plants I keep to see if they help absorb excess nutrients which may not be helping.

Too much light - I have heard in the past that some eggs can be light sensitive, occasionally I have put a towel over tanks with no difference, but haven't always been careful to replace it, or maybe it's too late by the time i notice the eggs.

Just a couple thoughts, it's a bit chaotic in the fish room at the moment moving stuff around for a couple new setups. Once that's done I should have a bit more time to try and figure this out!
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A few updates on the Ageneiosus magoi.

One of the larger females received some damage to her operculum, a chunk of it was missing with a clean cut leading up to it, hopefully this was caused by a male! It happened over a week ago, there are no signs of fungus or infection, and it appears to be healing well, a much thinner membrane has grown back to fill the gap, which I'm assuming will thicken over time.
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The smallest female has taken on a more yellow colouration in the past couple days. Previously I had heard they are often yellow when captured, due to living in silty water, which then fades to silver in captivity. No idea what caused this, one idea from another keeper is that it may be related to tannins in the water, some of his fish became more yellow after he added more leaves to the tank.
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As a side note the females, regardless of size, seem to eat a lot more than the males, I'd guess twice as much, and more frequently, hopefully related to producing lots of eggs :)) .
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Would be great to see fry Marc.

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Some new arrivals today, as the courier service are accepting fish occasionally.

A group of 12 Mochokiella paynei for my Sierra Leone, Kassawe Forest Reserve, loose biotope which I am setting up, in addition to these there will be a group of Epiplatys annulatus (Clown Killis), and a group of Ladigesia roloffi (Jelly bean tetra) which should be arriving on Monday. @racoll I'll share some pictures once it's all setup! I'm calling it a loose biotope as I can't find any leaf litter from Sierra Leone, everything else should be correct for the area!

Also in today's delivery, I got 12 more Akysis portellus because they are so much fun to watch, especially when there is food about. A few more Rainbow Shiners for the small outside pond, and some Barilius ardens for the Asian hill stream tank.
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Those "synos" are one of my top "I should have kept these by now" species, I hope you enjoy 'em!

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Thanks Jools they seem to be settling in well so far, I'll add some more pictures and try to take a video of the tank when it's setup.

If you feel the urge to get some Neil has "loads" in at Pier.
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MarcW wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:40 am Over the weekend I decided to try making some tubes for my Trachelyopterichthys taeniatus, as I only have clay caves, I thought they'd appreciate some shelter which they can just swim through easily, rather than a dead end cave.

We have a large oak tree (Quercus robur) in our garden, a while ago in strong winds a large branch fell off, so we had a tree surgeon come over who removed a few branches to give the tree a better shape. It had been badly managed in the past and had been left with a lot more growth on one side than the other.

It was cheaper if I kept the wood, so I did, and it's been stacked and drying for about 5 months now. I picked out a few smaller bits ~5-10cm (2-4 inches) in diameter and used my mitre saw to tidy up the chainsaw cuts (as I was paranoid about oil residue), and cut to appropriate lengths. In my case an appropriate length was no more than 20cm, ~8 inches, as my largest spade drill bit is 10cm long once in the chuck of my drill, allowing me to drill from each end and meet in the middle.

Firstly I stripped the bark, this was a pain and time consuming! I used an old chisel and a hammer where needed, this would probably have been easier if I had allowed the wood to dry out longer.

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I then used a 32mm ~1 1/4 inch, drill bit to drill through from both ends to make a tube.

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I had a few smaller bits of wood so I made a few small caves which I'll try in my Panaqolus sp(l397) tank.

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I messed one up, and split out the side, I should have used a narrower drill bit for this smaller diameter piece of wood!

They are currently soaking in a bucket in the garden so they sink before I put them in a tank.
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I've wanted to try oak but wasn't sure (afraid of the sap/oil)
Thanks for the post ! 👍
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Mart1996 wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:06 pm I've wanted to try oak but wasn't sure (afraid of the sap/oil)
Thanks for the post ! 👍
All the wood in this tank is Red Oak.... works great and is safe! Just know fresh Oak will turn your water a nice tea color..... but my fish seem to love the tea!

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stuby wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:30 pm
Mart1996 wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:06 pm I've wanted to try oak but wasn't sure (afraid of the sap/oil)
Thanks for the post ! 👍
All the wood in this tank is Red Oak.... works great and is safe! Just know fresh Oak will turn your water a nice tea color..... but my fish seem to love the tea!

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By "fresh" do you mean green or just new to the tank? I don't think I would add green wood of any kind it should be completely dried out before introducing. I have ready access to alder but I would like to add some oak, maple, and possibly hazelnut(filbert).
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Fresh as in I just added a bunch of it to the tank...… I would never use green wood for my tanks!

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