L244 Sexing: Now with a spawn and fry

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Re: L244 Sexing

Post by Jools » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:27 am

Nice work! Think this is a first?

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Re: L244 Sexing

Post by Mol_PMB » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:42 am

Thanks Jools!
First in the UK, I think. I think there are a couple of reports from Germany.
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Re: L244 Sexing

Post by Mol_PMB » Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:23 pm

I had one more sighting of a baby on Monday, and nothing since then. The tank has countless hiding places so hopefully the one I saw is OK and there are some others in there somewhere.
As well as repashy I have added some more branches with algae growth to provide additional grazing surfaces, plus some Catappa leaves.

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Re: L244 Sexing

Post by Mol_PMB » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:04 pm

Today I managed to see two Pseudolithoxus dumus fry at once, and get a photo of them. Unfortunately I couldn't get them both in focus at the same time, but this pair of photos clearly show there are at least two.

I put this fallen log in the tank a few days ago, it was covered in algae and lichen and I thought it would be good grazing ground for the youngsters. That idea seems to have worked.

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Re: L244 Sexing

Post by Mol_PMB » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:00 pm

A few more photos of the youngsters, which are still enjoying grazing on my log, though it's been stripped of almost all the green stuff by now.

They like clinging to the underside of the log (which is still floating) - these photos are the right way up! I used a torch to illuminate them for the photos.

Tomorrow I'll go walking and collect some more green logs.

Again today I have seen two youngsters at once, but I haven't seen more than that together so far. When I do see them, they're usually actively grazing and they seem to enjoy spots in moderate to strong currents.

They look to be growing well, I'd say they're about 15mm SL now. They are showing a colour pattern developing.
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Re: L244 Sexing

Post by bekateen » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:13 pm

So cool!
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Re: L244 Sexing

Post by Mol_PMB » Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:58 pm

One of the fry came near the front of the tank so I managed a few more photos.
Being closer I struggled to get the right focal depth in the available light conditions, but there is some detail visible. Am I imagining it, or are the distinctive orange fin tips of this species starting to show?

Incidentally, is there a way to update the title of this thread to something like 'L244 Sexing, now with a spawn'?
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Re: L244 Sexing

Post by bekateen » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:57 pm

Mol_PMB wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:58 pm
Incidentally, is there a way to update the title of this thread to something like 'L244 Sexing, now with a spawn'?
Hi Paul,

To update the name of the thread, go back to the first post (here: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=44831#p304166). Open it with the "Edit post" link and change the title in the first post. All subsequent new posts will possess the revised title (although all the previous posts will retain the old title).

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Re: L244 Sexing: Now with a spawn and fry

Post by Mol_PMB » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:21 pm

I don't see the fry (or the adults) very often, but the fry certainly enjoy grazing on 'green' wood. I have gathered a load of fallen branches and twigs from local woods, which are covered in algae and lichen. Here's one of the little ones (now about 16mmSL) having a munch!
L244 fry, grazing on branches collected from local woodland.
L244 fry, grazing on branches collected from local woodland.
I swap the branches for fresh ones every few days, being very careful that they don't have any fish clinging to them.

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Re: L244 Sexing: Now with a spawn and fry

Post by Mol_PMB » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:10 pm

A few more photos of the Pseudolithoxus dumus fry this evening, all of the same fish which was being quite bold on a twig near the front of the tank. I did see another one on the powerhead casing at the same time, but it scarpered. I still haven't seen more than two at once!
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L244 fry. The thing on the left is a power cable to a powerhead, which is about 5mm across and gives a sense of scale.
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Re: L244 Sexing: Now with a spawn and fry

Post by Mol_PMB » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:35 pm

Having been away from home for 4 weeks, I'm delighted to report that at least one of my baby L244 Pseudolithoxus dumus is still alive, as are my Corydoras burgessi fry. They haven't grown a huge amount but are noticeably bigger and better patterned than before. My friend who looked after the feeding will get an expensive bottle of something in return!
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Re: L244 Sexing: Now with a spawn and fry

Post by racoll » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:27 pm

Wow ... starting to look like mini Pseudolithoxus now!

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Re: L244 Sexing: Now with a spawn and fry

Post by jac » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:29 am

Congratulations! And thanks for sharing, great pictures :-BD
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Re: L244 Sexing: Now with a spawn and fry

Post by Mol_PMB » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:14 am

Thanks Jac and Rupert! I'll keep updating this thread and the breeding report as they progress.
Sorry to have missed you at the CSG convention this year - looking forward to 2020.
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L244 Sexing Now with a spawn and fry

Post by ronaldjoift » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:34 am

So far these two species seems to do very well together. Any suggestions on what else to add beside Tetras?

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Re: L244 Sexing: Now with a spawn and fry

Post by Mol_PMB » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:49 pm

[I'm not sure of the relevance of the previous post on this thread>?]

Yesterday I made the decision to give the L244 tank a good clean and move the babies into a fry box so I could target-feed them better, as they seemed thin and slow-growing.

I had previously seen a maximum of 2 fry, and I only found 2 fry in the clean-out. They are now in the fry box within the main tank, and seem to be settling in. I am offering green twigs, chlorella/spirulina powder, and repashy.
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Closeup of L244 fry in the fry box
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Both fry in one shot, admittedly not very clear!
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One of the fry in a tray for a photocall before going into the fry box.
One of the fry in a tray for a photocall before going into the fry box.

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Re: L244 Sexing: Now with a spawn and fry

Post by bekateen » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:29 pm

Hi Paul,

I'm glad you still have two, but I also am a bit surprised you didn't find a third or fourth wandering around.

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Re: L244 Sexing: Now with a spawn and fry

Post by Mol_PMB » Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:44 pm

I see my two juvenile L244s quite often as a rapidly disappearing yellow flash.
This evening I finally managed to creep up on one with the camera and get a few shots before it scarpered into a crevice.
So I thought I'd post the pics here as an update to the story.
They're growing rather slowly but look healthy.
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