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Black worms

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:51 am
by Muller
Anybody having some living black worms? I can't buy them here in the Netherlands and would love to set-up a breeding tank for them.
Thanks,
Stijn

Re: Black worms

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:02 pm
by Mol_PMB
I’ve got two tanks with healthy populations of them in the substrate. I’m not sure if it’s permitted to post them from the UK to the Netherlands? I have sent some within the UK which arrived successfully.
Regards,
Paul

Re: Black worms

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:47 pm
by Bas Pels
I would assume than anythink acceptable for posiontg in the UK will also be acceptable within the EU.

In order to be safe, try posting them before the Brexit.

Re: Black worms

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:57 pm
by Jools
Royal Mail says inverts are legal to send if marked as such. Vertebrates are prohibited as are any creatures or insects classified as dangerous within the Dangerous Wild Animals Act 1976 (including certain venomous spiders). Fish, well, you're not asking about shipping fish...

"Must be boxed and packaged to protect the creatures, our staff and our customers from harm.
Use 1st Class as the minimum service.
Items must be clearly marked "URGENT - LIVING CREATURES - HANDLE WITH CARE".
The sender's name and address must be clearly visible on the outer packaging."

Jools

Re: Black worms

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:46 pm
by dw1305
Hi all,
Mol_PMB wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:02 pm
I’ve got two tanks with healthy populations of them in the substrate. I’m not sure if it’s permitted to post them from the UK to the Netherlands? I have sent some within the UK which arrived successfully.
I've sent some to the Netherlands before, Lumbriculus variegatus is native to N. Europe, and I don't think there are any issues with posting them within the EU.
Jools wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:57 pm
.......Royal Mail says inverts are legal to send if marked as such....1st Class as the minimum service.
Items must be clearly marked "URGENT - LIVING CREATURES - HANDLE WITH CARE".
The sender's name and address must be clearly visible on the outer packaging.
I use this as a protocol.

cheers Darrel

Re: Black worms

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:19 pm
by Mol_PMB
Thanks. I'm happy to send some on that basis.
My remaining doubt concerns the ambient temperatures which are currently below freezing here. A simple cost-effectively packed jiffy bag might not keep them alive in the cold. But a proper insulated box with heat packs will cost a lot more to send. Any thoughts? It might not warm up until after Brexit (unless we all vote Lib Dem!)
Cheers,
Paul

Re: Black worms

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:55 pm
by dw1305
Hi all,
Mol_PMB wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:19 pm
My remaining doubt concerns the ambient temperatures which are currently below freezing here. A simple cost-effectively packed jiffy bag might not keep them alive in the cold. But a proper insulated box with heat packs will cost a lot more to send. Any thoughts?
I don't think you have too worry too much about the cold. They should be all right in some damp moss. I post them in a microwave container inside the padded envelope.

They occur right up into Scandinavia, arctic Russia etc..

cheers Darrel

Re: Black worms

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:22 am
by Muller
Great, I'm not sure if the packaging centers are heated or not, but open if you're willing to try to send them. They could be in a plastic bottle and surrounded by some newspaper or so. I would not mention what's in it, to prevent customs keeping them apart for two weeks or so… Tried to contact you via private message MOL, but seems not to work. Would appreciate if you would reach out to me. tx

Re: Black worms

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:25 pm
by Mol_PMB
I’m sorry, work has become incredibly busy and I am having to spend a lot of time away from home. I don’t know when I’ll get a chance to pack and send anything to you. It might be best to leave it until after the Christmas rush anyway.