Shane wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:01 am
When I was spawning these regularly I only offered prepared foods once a week. The majority of their diet, as it would be in nature, was driftwood and their bamboo caves. The colony just kept spawning and spawning generation after generation with no "seasonal" changes undertaken by me.
-Shane
Thanks, I will just have to be patient I guess
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I have 2 WC L104 ordered from Imperial Tropical coming next week. I unplugged the heater to simulate dry season temperatures. Not sure about at night but the thermometer reads 72F during the day. I will add the 2 new wait a day or so more and then do a large water change and turn the heat on.
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Fish arrived safe and sound. I expected both L104s to be in the same bag but they were seperate and double bagged. There was a 7.5mm square of filter foam in each bag too. Floated for 10-15min for temp and then added them to the colony. These guys are small at a shy 30mm, maybe.
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Glad you got them safely. Do you have whole body photos yet? I must confess the facial coloration pattern in this pic looks a little peculiar for L104.
Cheers,
Eric
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bekateen wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:34 pm
Glad you got them safely. Do you have whole body photos yet? I must confess the facial coloration pattern in this pic looks a little peculiar for L104.
Cheers,
Eric
I will take some this evening when I get home. I emailed Imperial and the only collection info they have is country of origin, Columbia.
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They probably are L104 or at least one of the clown plecos, but it's particularly that area behind the eyes that looks atypical to me.
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Made time during lunch to run home and snag some quick pictures. Hopefully to avoid confusing individual specimens I will post seperatly. This is L104 J1
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This is the fish with the odd color pattern. It looks more like a Peckoltia to me. Or if Panaqolus, then one with a very unique and beautiful color pattern.
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They're probably all Panaqolus, but that one is very atypical.
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The odd one looks more like LDA 67. They are often mixed in with shipments of P. maccus from Colombia. Nice find. Care conditions for both spp are the same.
-Shane
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Shane wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:44 am
The odd one looks more like LDA 67. They are often mixed in with shipments of P. maccus from Colombia. Nice find. Care conditions for both spp are the same.
-Shane
Would these cross?
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I noticed that under the L104 there aren't any pictures of a male flaring his gill plates to show off his odontids. While snagging the juveniles out of the tank one of my adult males was flaring for me and growling too. I did not test the odontids for ability to puncture human skin
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I have no idea if they would cross. I think it doubtful that with adequate mate choices from their own sp they would. But a one off L67 in a tank of all P. maccus might due to a lack of suitable partners. Personally, I would not mix them in a breeding set up. What would be awesome would be to comb through shipments and get groups of both spp set up and spawning.
-Shane
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Shane wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:23 pm
I have no idea if they would cross. I think it doubtful that with adequate mate choices from their own sp they would. But a one off L67 in a tank of all P. maccus might due to a lack of suitable partners. Personally, I would not mix them in a breeding set up. What would be awesome would be to comb through shipments and get groups of both spp set up and spawning.
-Shane
I am considering a call to imperial to see if they would comb through there L104 stock to see if there are any more LDA67. It's a juvie so I at least have some time before spawning even enters its mind Thank you for the answers
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After roughly a week of cool 72F temps I plugged the heater back in after a substantial water change. I have also rearranged the caves so some are perpendicular to the tank.
I have seen one male hanging out of a cave but can’t see into it as the chosen cave is one perpendicular to the front.
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My spawning tank for these guys looked much like this. They do not need seasonal changes and in the wild spawn year round. I have collected babies in both the wet and dry seasons in Venezuela.
-Shane
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Shane wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:08 pm
My spawning tank for these guys looked much like this. They do not need seasonal changes and in the wild spawn year round. I have collected babies in both the wet and dry seasons in Venezuela.
-Shane
Wow, that's a lot of wood. Do you have caves drilled into those?
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I have more pictures from this evening but I will have to sort out who’s who.
