Hypancistrus or Panaqolus??

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 31 Dec 2002, 13:23

Hi Everyone!

Ok I have noticed that L129 is labelled as a Panaqolus sp , he was before place in the Hypancistrus sp. I do follow quite well what is going on into the catfish litteratures of South America in both magazine and books but I have not read a thing saying it was known now as Panaqolus sp instead of Hypancistrus sp where it seem to belong to.

Any one knows where I can find this and where that was written... I found that strange as it has many particularities that would place him in Hypancistrus

When first introduce to the hobby L129 was thought to belongs to the genus Peckoltia and after several years transfer into Hypancistrus ...
Still I know it has no scientific value as it still is not described but the paper presenting the species who belong to Hypancistrus was a pretty good one!
Cheers
Yann

S. Allen · Post by **S. Allen** » 01 Jan 2003, 04:51

Yann, I've got a few of them, I'll try to get a pic of the dental grouping later tonight... that probably should help the question some...

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 01 Jan 2003, 13:10

Hi!
Great that was what I was hoping for!
Cheers
Yann

kgroenhoej · Post by **kgroenhoej** » 05 Jan 2003, 22:39

Hi

I've never seen L129 in real life, but all the pictures I've seen looks like a Hypancistrus.
I'm convinced that we're on the rigth track :-)

-Klaus

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 06 Jan 2003, 07:10

Hi Klaus!

that is exactly what I am thinking of, that is why I wanted to know several has put it in Panaqolus, either it is wrongly ID or we have to deal with another species that is look alike!
Cheers
Yann

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 06 Jan 2003, 15:46

Yann,

I've got some too. What do you want pictures of?

Jools

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 06 Jan 2003, 20:42

Hi!

I would like to see how the teeth are like as they are pretty different for both genus.
I have also put links to some pictures that I have found around the web:
the first one is from Transfish: http://www.transfish.de/LCode/L129a.jpg
it must be a rather young specimen

the second is from g-hoener:
http://www.g-hoener.de/images/06%20Saug ... wels_d.JPG
not very big either
the last one from Welskeller online: http://www.welskeller.de/angebote/photos/129.jpg
seem to be a bit different

Still all this fish show some feature that would make us think more at an Hypancistrus rather than a Panaqolus...

I will also check with datz mag to see the original picture

Cheers
Yann

coryfav · Post by **coryfav** » 09 Jan 2003, 08:16

L129? The Aqualog on Loricariidae says it's a Peckoltia sp. "Stripes-Peckoltia".

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 09 Jan 2003, 11:21

Hi!

Well the Aqualog is sure not the best book to ID fish correctly nor is giving the correct genus for soem species...

Still as I said earlier on, L129 when first descovered back in the old time was thought to belong to the genus Peckoltia but since it has been relabelled as Hypancistrus sp...

Cheers
Yann

coryfav · Post by **coryfav** » 09 Jan 2003, 16:22

Oh, so my suspicion on the reliability of the Aqualog has been confirmed!

Thanks, Yann.

Hypancistrus or Panaqolus??

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