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Synodontis petricola

Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 13:24
by 24tropheus
Synodontis petricola
Sorry if this has been asked before but are there any confirmed breeding reports on these (other than miss Ided Synodontis lucipinnis)?

All the best James

Re: Synodontis petricola

Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 14:27
by Birger
Oliver Drescher in Germany has bred them in the same style as many people do lucipinnis .http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... 3&start=20

The only other for sure account that I know of is from Neil Hardy Aquatics in the UK.

The only thing in my mind with this is that they do a lot of hormone breeding with other real species(kudos to them for not mixing species)and were possibly used with the petricola as well.

@RichardB will probably know whether or not I am correct with this.

I do not doubt though that they can be spawned, it is just a matter of making sure you have actual

Birger

Re: Synodontis petricola

Posted: 13 Apr 2013, 16:12
by 24tropheus
Thanks. Kind of convinced by the Oliver Drescher report.
Not at all convinced about the Neil Hardy Aquatics in the UK thing. I have as yet have found no evidence to support they are breeding a petricola not a lucipinnis.
For sure the young stuff they sell via MH aquatics looks like lucipinnis to me. :-W
It may be a prob with accurate info. After all many of us have perchased some "petricola" only to find out they are realy lucipinnis. I for sure have. Then bred em raised em, then checked here only to find it was nothing new. Kind of do not want to be burnt a third time. :-??

All the best James

Re: Synodontis petricola

Posted: 14 Apr 2013, 15:35
by Birger
I have as yet have found no evidence to support they are breeding a petricola not a lucipinnis.
On this I am relying on forum member @Richard B for the ID, one of the few I personally would trust to ID these properly.

Birger

Re: Synodontis petricola

Posted: 15 Apr 2013, 08:12
by Richard B
Neil Hardy are indeed breeding true Petricola & I've seen their breeding stock first hand.

I think Sid Guppy also bred true petricola too.

Neil hardy use the '3 tank method' the same as granulosa. All males are kept in one tank, all females in another. Fish are conditioned separately then the most promising pair brought together for the spawning attempt

Re: Synodontis petricola

Posted: 16 Apr 2013, 01:41
by Birger
I think Sid Guppy also bred true petricola too.
I know he did but do not remember him breeding the ptricola he had...I could be wrong though.

Birger

Re: Synodontis petricola

Posted: 16 Apr 2013, 17:28
by Richard B
I think he posted about Petricola too a fair old while ago.

Re: Synodontis petricola

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 01:06
by 24tropheus
Are there any photos of young S.petricola I can compare the shop ones to?

Why in the Cat-eLog does it still say
"Breeding Because of the similarity with S. lucipinnis, it is unclear if this species is the one many aquarists have spawned."?

All the best James

Re: Synodontis petricola

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 05:02
by Birger
Why in the Cat-eLog does it still say
"Breeding Because of the similarity with S. lucipinnis, it is unclear if this species is the one many aquarists have spawned."?
Does need to be upgraded, I could change the wording here, give me a couple days or give it a shot give me a paragraph I can work with b-) I am actually trying to work through information currently.

Birger

Re: Synodontis petricola

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 13:47
by Richard B
Small petricola are incredibly similar to small lucipinnis. They need to be a couple of inches long before they are easily distinguishable

Re: Synodontis petricola

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 14:04
by MatsP
Birger wrote:Does need to be upgraded, I could change the wording here, give me a couple days or give it a shot give me a paragraph I can work with b-)
I take it we still want to say "This species is not commonly bred by hobbyists, and hobby-bred fish is most likely S. lucipinnis" - but it would be great to add something useful about how the true species is being bred...

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Mats

Re: Synodontis petricola

Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 18:01
by Richard B
I can tell you how NHA do it commercially with the 3 tank method if you want?