What to do with the "Glo Cory"?

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What to do with the "Glo Cory"?

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Opening this little can of worms. What should we do with the new glo cory. Corydoras sp(x)? A new genus for each Glo?

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Re: What to do with the "Glo Cory"?

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As far as I know, they are legal in the USA, but forbidden in the EU. And I would not know about other parts of the world.

Still, legal or not, they are manmade fish with an ethical aspect. I dislike them, but I'll try to remain as neutral as possible here.

Do we have special entries for albino Corydoras? As far as I know not. What would be different for these to justify a special entry?

I would assume a glowing C paleatus or A aeneus would require a similar care as the real fish, just as albinos do. And that information is available.
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Re: What to do with the "Glo Cory"?

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Why not just add it as a color variant of the natural species, like albino aeneus or schulze black?

... and I'd suggest one entry per real species, with all color variations lumped in together.
Bas Pels wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:18 pmDo we have special entries for albino Corydoras? As far as I know not. What would be different for these to justify a special entry?

I would assume a glowing C paleatus or A aeneus would require a similar care as the real fish, just as albinos do. And that information is available.
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Re: What to do with the "Glo Cory"?

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I understand the logic to make it a colour variation, but I wondered if because it has had its DNA altered that makes it not Corydoras aeneus?

The EU legislation on Genetically Modified Organisms was retained in Scots Law (just), and in UK legislation after brexit. But I really don't know about other countries or regions either.

Also, I believe glo-fish have more legal "protection" than other ornamental fishes. I am unclear if it's legal to resell, breed or distribute fry from glo GM fishes. If anyone has the terms and conditions, let me know! I would also like to dispel the random misinformation wherever possible. Best data I've got is from Amazonas magazine and there is a lot more reading on the wikipedia page.

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Re: What to do with the "Glo Cory"?

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With regard to reselling these fishes, chances are one could face a patent lawsuit in such a case for selling fry. However, it could be one is free to sell the original bought fishes. In Europa, if one would buy a patented product, one is free to resell it. But not copy it.

The legal status for offspring would be very close to a copy, compare plant breeders rights.

With regard to the species, I am now reading a SF book in which some people are genetically changed - and yes, in the book some of the characters argue that the changed ones are not human anymore. To me, that sounds odd - one gene changed, the 10.000 others remain the same. In other words, some 0,01 % of the genes is changed, which would not suffice in any test for claiming another species.
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