Could this be Pinirampus pirinampu?

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Could this be Pinirampus pirinampu?

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I've bought "it" 4-5 times before over the past 10 years and each time it wasn't this giant but some other obscure small pim, like an Exallodontus sp., etc.

Could this one be it? One pic for now. Vendor promised more pics this Sunday.
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Re: Could this be Pinirampus pirinampu?

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I don't think so Viktor, the barbkes don't look heavy enough and, although it develops more in later life, the dorsal fin doesn't look extendeed enough. Looks like to me.

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Thank you much for your input, Jools.

The vendor said the last specimen of the batch that was remaining was clearly different from the one on this photo. He sent me the photos and it is a bycatch, looks like a Pimelodella sp. So they do not have any alleged pirinampu right now. Let's see if they bring them back and then we could get more and better photos hopefully.
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When I've seen them they've always been in shipments from the Parana, usually out of Uruguay.

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Re: Could this be Pinirampus pirinampu?

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Interesting, Jools. I wonder why it'd be as they seem to be very widely distributed in SA in almost every country.

Anyhow, the vendor ordered more of the alleged P.p. (Interestingly, I just received a new availability list from our supplier in Peru with both Piramutana pitramuta Flatwhiskered Catfish 4-5cm Rio Nanay and Pinirampus pirinampu "real" Flatwhiskered Catfish 5-6cm Amazonas. I will be ordering both and we'll have something to compare. It will be interesting to see what comes late next week. I'll get you an update when they arrive.) ... but they arrived DOA (sat overnight at an airport). So he says he'll try in a week or two again.

Meanwhile, here is the bycatch we spoke of earlier:
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Re: Could this be Pinirampus pirinampu?

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Our UK peer Rpul thinks he might have the P.p. If you cared to look at his pics, what would you say for the ID?

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