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Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 25 Apr 2009, 20:14
by michele
Oh MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe it! Ive tried before with 1 male and 2 females, but the male just beat the heck out of the females.......they were housed in a 150 gallon tank, but I think my next try will have to take place in a 200 gallon tank.......I also collect all of the fish you have in the tank but I've never been able to keep Retroculus alive more than a year! Are you using a reverse osmosis system on the tank?

I'd love to have a few of those juveniles........what does their diet consist of? I usually fed my adults lots of bloodworm and frozen krill.

Michele

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 25 Apr 2009, 20:42
by ElTofi
michele wrote:Oh MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can simply call me Chris... :lol: :lol: :lol: just kidding...

and for answering your questions, I only use RO when I want to stimulate the fishes... rest of the time, I simply use tap water (GH 14, Kh 8 from Switzerland mountains). For the Retroculus, it's a German breeding and I have F1, which is much easier...

for all that tank, I feed with frozen krill, Hikari chips, Tetra Prima diskus, Sera Viformo most of the time... Sometimes, a bit of white flesh fish, and when I have some, shrimps...

It's always very pleasant for my ego to have such reactions :lol: Pleasant, but not good :twisted:

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 25 Apr 2009, 20:53
by michele
Thanks.........I'm sure the water quality from Switzerland is so pure.......I'm on Long Island in New York, so you can only imagine what the water quality is like! Need more pics as the youngsters grow and change......it will be interesting to see at what stage the eyes change.......!

Michele

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 25 Apr 2009, 21:24
by ElTofi
I remember a bar next to Broadway where the bourbon was smelling and tasting Chlorine because of the ice served with it.

I have a quite good idea of the water quality in your part of the world :roll:

But to be honest, in Switzerland, I'm very lucky to live in a preserved area with no too much urban and industrial disturbances... That's not the case everywhere around here.

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 12 May 2009, 20:50
by ElTofi
a bit of fresh news of the L25 babies...

day 111 : around 4 cm

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Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 12 May 2009, 22:15
by Cristoffer Forssander
Hello!!!

They are just butiful!!! I'm lost for words! :thumbsup:

Whos the parents! Are they getting in breeding condition? Are you going to keep the second male? Is there any risk for fights between the two males?

Best regards
Cristoffer

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 12 May 2009, 23:39
by michele


Chris, or shall I call you GOD? :)

Great pics of the cute little guys.......I must have at least one of these one day!!!!!!!! I am addicted to Psuedacanthicus L25 for sure......

Michele (drowning in toxic New York water!) :lol:

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 14 May 2009, 09:01
by ElTofi
Cristoffer Forssander wrote: Whos the parents! Are they getting in breeding condition? Are you going to keep the second male? Is there any risk for fights between the two males?
The female is getting thicker, but I'm not sure it's about breeding... maybe too much good quality food :lol: I did nothing to stimulate them again, cause my nurseries are full crowded and I can't afford to raise another spawning yet... I left for five days in South France last week and the L320 babies paid a too big tribute because of it : 5 days without correct feeding -> 30-40 % of dead in the next days... I still have around 120 babies, but it's very sad...

The L25 babies were old and fat enough to endure this 5 days diet without any problem...

I will lead this present batch of L320 till September and then, I'll try something new with the L25.

For the second male, there's no problem, the tank is big enough for all his population, and there's no fight between them all. So, I'll keep it.

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 14 May 2009, 09:08
by Jools
Just a note that I intend to run the L25 breeding article in the next couple of days, it'll be added to the Shane's World reproduction section.

Jools

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 14 May 2009, 09:55
by ElTofi
great, thanks Jools,

I hope it's good enough to figure in this section... Did you have a big job to review it ?

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 16 May 2009, 17:15
by Jools
ElTofi wrote:I hope it's good enough to figure in this section... Did you have a big job to review it ?
It wasn't too bad. The English was good, just needed a bit of work on punctuation and layout and, as you know, adding little bits of information that people not following this thread might not have known. It's finished now with pictures added too. Hope everyone likes it!

Jools

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 17 May 2009, 00:35
by Birger
It is always good to keep a spawning log (which I fail at most times) what I found most interesting is reading Christoffer's extra thoughts, speculations and worries as he worked through this spawning and raising of the fry.

Birger

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 17 May 2009, 03:01
by andywoolloo
those pics of the baby are so cute!! such a handsome pl*co!! :thumbsup:

and I am looking forward to the article!

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 17 May 2009, 06:59
by ElTofi
andywoolloo wrote:those pics of the baby are so cute!! such a handsome pl*co!! :thumbsup:

and I am looking forward to the article!
which is available from Thursday on Shane's world, reproduction section... thanks Jools...
Spawning L25

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 16:55
by ElTofi
Day 159...

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Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 17:00
by Haavard Stoere
It is amazing to see them develop :D

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 28 Jun 2009, 18:03
by michele


Its incredible to watch their development! I'd love to know the point at wich the eyes will change!!!!!

:D

Michele

"Without catfish, life is very boring.......

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 11:32
by Cattleya
let me think...

elTofi and me have to sell swiss water al over the world :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Udo

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 11:52
by MatsP
Cattleya wrote:let me think...

elTofi and me have to sell swiss water al over the world :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Udo
Yes, and a bunch of people who believe there is a secret recipe to breeding will buy it! Shipping water will be quite expesnive tho'.

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Mats

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 10:35
by ElTofi
Hi everyone...

a piece of bad news... Yesterday, I found 2 of those f...ing stupid idiot juveniles, stucked into the Anubias roots ! I guess they wanted to hide inside it and they stood blocked inside, hooked by their very impressive pectoral fins... I have seen it at 9pm and they were dead... I'm sure if I had seen it in the morning, I could have done something safe for them...

So, there will only be 9 of them to take the trip to Hannover in November. Sorry Harvaard...

Now the tank is reduced to his strict minima : bare bottom, 4 caves, 2 stones and nothing else...

Fortunately, the 20 juveniles I sold in the shop in Yverdon are very fine (when I last had news in early August) and go on growing (a bit slowlier in fact)...

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 27 Aug 2009, 10:57
by andywoolloo
:( so sorry to hear that! And here I never thought to ever be worried about those anubias roots!! I will be checking closely from now on with my BN fry.

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 17:10
by Cristoffer Forssander
Birger wrote:It is always good to keep a spawning log (which I fail at most times) what I found most interesting is reading Christoffer's extra thoughts, speculations and worries as he worked through this spawning and raising of the fry.

Birger

You can't learn if you don't ask! :wink: I was sad, seeing just one of these beutiful fryes dead... I'm looking forward to the next L25 breeding tale!

Cristoffer

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 29 Aug 2009, 19:53
by ElTofi
Day 221 :
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another one, very stressed, cause I had difficulties trying to catch it :
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a 3rd juvenile, in the nursery, stressed because of the hunting time :
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they are all fine and calm, now...

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 31 Aug 2009, 05:39
by Jon
I'd like to give you a big bear hug.

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 04 Sep 2009, 03:57
by charles
This is an amazing thread. Thank you so much for keeping a log like this.

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 27 Sep 2009, 08:34
by ElTofi
this story will soon come to an end, as I will bring the babies in Hannover in late November. I'll post a few last pictures in October and November, and then, my L25 will have to be performant again...

day 250 (this morning) :
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Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 27 Sep 2009, 13:52
by Cristoffer Forssander
I hope the new owner will add some images in a few years. It would be very interesting to see how they will get their colors!
Great job!

You will do even better next time! I'm sure! :thumbsup:

Cristoffer

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 22 Nov 2009, 14:15
by ElTofi
the juveniles (about 10 months) are about to take a trip to Hannover, to finally go to Norway !

and I guess I'll soon have good news for this topic ! :beardy:

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 06:11
by ElTofi
Hello all,

I can proudly say : that's it !

I found the 2nd clutch of eggs with Mr Dad early this morning ! 4 days in the cave with Mrs Pseuda. I hope I'll do a better job this time.

news soon.

Re: Pseudacanthicus sp L25 "Scarlet" : another breeding tale

Posted: 23 Nov 2009, 10:20
by MatsP
Good luck.

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Mats