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Re: what am I?

Posted: 11 May 2009, 14:16
by torbanite
L number Banana wrote:torbanite:
Hemiancistrus subviridis?
I looked at that one but can't figure out who the 'cousin' might be. I thought the first one would have 'Pan' in it and maybe baryancistrus as the cousin (writer)?
I was thinking Baryancistrus demantoides for the 'cousin' - as you say J.M. Barrie = the author..
B. demantoides and H. subviridis look like cousins to me..guess we got to wait and see what Marc says.. ;-)

Re: what am I?

Posted: 11 May 2009, 16:23
by Marc van Arc
torbanite wrote:
L number Banana wrote:torbanite:
Hemiancistrus subviridis?
I looked at that one but can't figure out who the 'cousin' might be. I thought the first one would have 'Pan' in it and maybe baryancistrus as the cousin (writer)?
I was thinking Baryancistrus demantoides for the 'cousin' - as you say J.M. Barrie = the author..
B. demantoides and H. subviridis look like cousins to me..guess we got to wait and see what Marc says
Correct answer :thumbsup:
1) Hook
2) Half
3) Green
Hemi (2)-ancistrus (1) subviridis (3)
4) Barrie resembles Bary (-ancistrus)

Your turn!

Re: what am I?

Posted: 11 May 2009, 16:27
by sidguppy
MARC puts up an L NUMBER?

where's my medication, I'm hallucinating or suffering from severe psychosis where reality and twisted fantasy are entwined


aaaaarrrgghlfglffghl

Re: what am I?

Posted: 11 May 2009, 16:43
by Marc van Arc
No, it's sort of the other way round(*): I think of music (Tago Mago) or a film (Hook) and then try to search a fish that may fit - which in this case turned out to be a pleco.
(*)This is restricted to "artists-riddles" btw :wink:

Re: what am I?

Posted: 11 May 2009, 20:34
by torbanite
sidguppy wrote:MARC puts up an L NUMBER?
On the subject of L numbers, I noticed that the cat-e-log entries for both and lay claim to being L200.

Is that a "bug", or am I revealing my cluelessness (again)?

I know L numbers aren't exactly scientific, but name collisions can't be good...

Anyway, new riddle in a bit...

M.

Re: what am I?

Posted: 11 May 2009, 20:57
by torbanite
OK.. here's one for the chemists..

i) By adding a strategic "I" to my genus, you can make it end in the name of a transition metal.
ii) By adding a strategic "I" to my specific name, you can make that end in the name of a (different) transition metal.

Who am I?
M.

Re: what am I?

Posted: 11 May 2009, 22:45
by Marc van Arc
Been thinking very hard on these two, but not quite sure I understand.
Is it XXXXX (including the "I") and then the complete (=unchanged) transition metal, like for instance MairyGold or UglyiSilver? Or may the metals be changed as well?

The only fishes I found so far that sound like those metals are Glanidium and Cetopsidium :?

Re: what am I?

Posted: 11 May 2009, 23:22
by torbanite
Marc van Arc wrote:Been thinking very hard on these two, but not quite sure I understand.
Is it XXXXX (including the "I") and then the complete (=unchanged) transition metal, like for instance MairyGold or UglyiSilver? Or may the metals be changed as well?

The only fishes I found so far that sound like those metals are Glanidium and Cetopsidium :?
Ha! finally managed to come up with a puzzle which baffles Marc :lol:

iii) The genus and species names will both end in the complete name of a transition metal once an 'I' is added in the appropriate place.
iv) The "appropriate place" can be anywhere in the genus/species name.

e.g. if there were a genus or species called foobarum, then adding an "I" could give foobarium, which ends in the name of a metal.. (However, Barium is not a transition metal)

v) I'm using the "loose" definition of transition metal, so you have some 40 elements to choose from..

vi) Multiply the atomic numbers of the two elements in question and the answer is the year that Louis-Napoléon Bonaparte became president of France.

Re: what am I?

Posted: 12 May 2009, 06:03
by L number Banana
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You took my next fish!! :lol: :lol:

Re: what am I?

Posted: 12 May 2009, 06:49
by torbanite
L number Banana wrote:.
iridium and chromium :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
L number Banana wrote:You took my next fish!! :lol: :lol:
Spooky.. clearly we've all been playing this game too long & have developed a hive mind :lol:

Your turn!
M.

Re: what am I?

Posted: 12 May 2009, 07:51
by L number Banana
torbanite:
Spooky.. clearly we've all been playing this game too long & have developed a hive mind :lol:
We're 'schooling' :shock:


Well now I have to think of a new one but it will have to wait, I'm half asleep.
I'll call that the first clue and fall asleep trying to find a fish that will somehow relate to sleeping, dreaming etc.
(there better be one... :shock: )

Re: what am I?

Posted: 12 May 2009, 13:54
by Jools
torbanite wrote:On the subject of L numbers, I noticed that the cat-e-log entries for both and lay claim to being L200.

Is that a "bug", or am I revealing my cluelessness (again)?
Nope, remarkably, they're two species. The very first L200 was the Baryancistrus, but a lot of folks reckoned the high fin was just a male versus female thing. It wasn't until we saw lots of big ones that folks worked out they were in fact two different genera and the L200 Hi-Fin thing appeared to differentiate them. Anyway, they're both L200, but now we have two scientific names for them, it doesn't really matter.

Jools

Re: what am I?

Posted: 12 May 2009, 15:46
by L number Banana
Previously Listed Catfish

Clue 2: I shine like gold but belong in a weedy garden.
Clue 3: I've had to live most of my existence being called the wrong name by amateurs and experts alike.

Re: what am I?

Posted: 12 May 2009, 16:59
by Marc van Arc

Re: what am I?

Posted: 12 May 2009, 17:17
by L number Banana
Marc:
Platydoras armatulus
Nope but I could see a match with the sleeping/dreaming clue with "Talking Catfish"
Wrong continent and this fish is now going by the correct name but not my fish. Everyone, Cat-elog included is using the 'wrong name' but it's just a fact of fishy life now and must be an universally accepted mistake.
Also my fish is more gold.

Re: what am I?

Posted: 12 May 2009, 19:02
by sidguppy
Clue 2: I shine like gold but belong in a weedy garden.
Clue 3: I've had to live most of my existence being called the wrong name by amateurs and experts alike.
where's clue #1?

Re: what am I?

Posted: 12 May 2009, 19:20
by Dave Rinaldo
sidguppy wrote:
Clue 2: I shine like gold but belong in a weedy garden.
Clue 3: I've had to live most of my existence being called the wrong name by amateurs and experts alike.
where's clue #1?
L number Banana wrote: Well now I have to think of a new one but it will have to wait, I'm half asleep.
I'll call that the first clue and fall asleep trying to find a fish that will somehow relate to sleeping, dreaming etc.
(there better be one... :shock: )

Re: what am I?

Posted: 12 May 2009, 21:08
by torbanite

Re: what am I?

Posted: 13 May 2009, 03:00
by L number Banana
Torbanite:
Mystus tengara
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Pyjama Cat

Okay, so I wasn't very creative this morning either.. :roll:

Does that name thing makes sense to you guys? I'm hoping I read it right but... :?
It says :
If one follows this original description, M. tengara is a fish that is very similar to (and may even be a junior synonym of) M. vittatus. It appears that M. carcio is actually the earliest and thus correct name for this small species. This fact appears to have been missed, or at least left uncorrected, by those working with these fishes and it continues to be universally known as M. tengara.
torbanite's turn!
:thumbsup:
Previously Listed Catfish

Re: what am I?

Posted: 13 May 2009, 08:33
by torbanite
i) Specifically, I'm half a famous shipyard.
ii) The yard is famous (amongst other things) for sailing ships which plied the nitrate trade with my continent until well into the 20th century.
iii) I have no common name.

Who am I?

Re: what am I?

Posted: 13 May 2009, 21:38
by Marc van Arc
Sorry, too many shipyards, too many clippers and too many destinations as well. I was pretty convinced the continent was S-Am, but noticed nitrate came (comes?) for a lot of places....
New clue pls.

PS: I take it clue 1 refers to the species, not the genus?

Re: what am I?

Posted: 13 May 2009, 22:30
by torbanite
Marc van Arc wrote:Sorry, too many shipyards, too many clippers and too many destinations as well. I was pretty convinced the continent was S-Am, but noticed nitrate came (comes?) for a lot of places....
New clue pls.

PS: I take it clue 1 refers to the species, not the genus?
There's a fine line in this game between being too obvious - giving the game away immediately and being too obscure..
I've evidently landed at the obscure end of the spectrum this time. :egrin: :-)

iv) S. America is the correct continent. Nitrate was imported to Europe from Valparaiso on these ships until the 1920s-30s.
v) It is a "ship-spotter" distinction but relevant - the ships on that route weren't Clippers, they were Barques.
vi) The fish you want is not from Chile.. It is from further north & east.
vii) Clue i) does refer to the species.
viii) The shipyard in question has a geographical link with a "scouser" pop group.

M.

Re: what am I?

Posted: 13 May 2009, 22:38
by Marc van Arc


Clue 8 made it clear: Beatles - Hamburg - Blohm & Voss shipyard

Re: what am I?

Posted: 13 May 2009, 23:37
by torbanite
Marc van Arc wrote:

Clue 8 made it clear: Beatles - Hamburg - Blohm & Voss shipyard
Oh rats! see what I mean about the "fine line" :lol:
Absolutely correct :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I'll smuggle an Auchenipterid past you yet though, just you wait ;-)

Your turn,
M.

Re: what am I?

Posted: 14 May 2009, 09:03
by Marc van Arc
torbanite wrote:I'll smuggle an Auchenipterid past you yet though, just you wait ;-)
It has been done before, so don't worry :wink:

New fish

1) My species name is a part of a song by a band having to do with "moving rocks".
2) My synonyms contain different genera among which one that isn't even in my family

Re: what am I?

Posted: 14 May 2009, 21:15
by sidguppy
Corydarius getyeryayasoutius

nah, with about 37,483 songs on 529 albums or so the Stones made, I can definitely feel a bout of lazyness coming up right now and hence pass this one to anyone who has got a truckload of time to spare to root through their entire discography.
:D

Re: what am I?

Posted: 14 May 2009, 21:21
by torbanite
Marc van Arc wrote: 1) My species name is a part of a song by a band having to do with "moving rocks".
Assuming it is the obvious band, then there are .... a few songs to choose from!
Are we looking for part of the song title, or something buried in the lyrics somewhere?
Is there any translation involved?

Re: what am I?

Posted: 14 May 2009, 21:36
by Marc van Arc
3) It's an important song in the film "Full Metal Jacket" - but it's NOT on the soundtrack
4) Tour of Duty rings any bells?

Re: what am I?

Posted: 14 May 2009, 21:40
by Marc van Arc
sidguppy wrote:Corydarius getyeryayasoutius
nah, with about 37,483 songs on 529 albums or so the Stones made, I can definitely feel a bout of lazyness coming up right now and hence pass this one to anyone who has got a truckload of time to spare to root through their entire discography.
:D
It's a song you like (see above) and a fish you like. So get out of that lazy chair and find it :lol: . 10 minutes tops!

Re: what am I?

Posted: 14 May 2009, 21:46
by torbanite