Did you take any fish traps to leave out overnight?
-Shane
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 03 Aug 2022, 21:54
by bekateen
Shane wrote: 03 Aug 2022, 21:21Did you take any fish traps to leave out overnight?
-Shane
No. Sadly, we didn't have any. I'll ask and see if we can get some.
Thanks for the tip.
Cheers, Eric
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 08 Aug 2022, 17:17
by bekateen
Update on fishing this year. My trip to ARCOF coincided with the visit of a young college student named AJ from SOKA University in Southern California, a student of Dr. Anthony Mazeroll, the head and heart of ARCOF. AJ had been a big help these weeks. Also here is a very nice German gentleman, Alexander Lenher, who won the ARCOF raffle to Iquitos. And with him came a face familiar to PlanetCatfish, @KarstenS . What a delight it's been to meet these two and fish with them. We collected a lot more fish from a more diverse set of creeks this year. The combination of people has made this a really fun trip and I'm seeing and learning a lot. Still no
Hi Eric,
Looks like you are having a good time!
First batch of photos - picture number three - small doradid. Looks like a Physopyxis species to me.
This is an edit...I goofed ("adult"): the 5 mm size that you provided is even smallish for the genus Physopyxis.
Lee
! That confirms the genus (at least) of the tiny specimens we collected previously. Along with six more tiny specimens caught last night, I now I have about 10-12 of them. I foresee a new breeding protect!
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 10 Aug 2022, 16:56
by lfinley58
Hi Eric,
Congrats on your flock of Physopyxis! They are a neat and interesting doradid. I had maintained a group of them that I collected in the Rio Negro in Brazil a number of years ago. But no breeding.
When you get home you might want to dig into the taxonomic weeds a bit in that in addition to P. lyra, another species, P. ananas is also found in the same area.
Continued good collecting!
Lee
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 11 Aug 2022, 02:43
by bekateen
lfinley58 wrote: 10 Aug 2022, 16:56
...in addition to P. lyra, another species, P. ananas is also found in the same area.
Yes, I saw that on SpeciesLink.net. My largest fish appears to have only one row of lateral spines, and its coracoids flare outward, so that's why I suspect P. lyra. The little specimens, I'm hoping, are the same, but here they are too small to examine. I'll check more closely back in the USA when I have access to a magnifying scope.
Cheers, Eric
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 04:04
by bekateen
I'm leaving Iquitos and ARCOF soon. I may get one or two more chances to fish the Itaya and Nanay, but this year, in spite of all the new things we found, there are several we didn't find this year, which were around last year:
. We caught a lot of these along the Nanay. The color on the caudal peduncle and two tail lobes seem helpful. There's a very rudimentary adipose fin.
Thanks, Eric
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 18 Sep 2022, 09:31
by Jools
Yes, agree with this ID (or at least I never got to species with this one). Also spotted in Iquitos fish exporters back when I was there.
Cheers,
Jools
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 18 Sep 2022, 14:51
by bekateen
Hi Jools, are you responding to my post in CLOG data issues? Are you agreeing that cf_guianense is psilogaster?
Cheers, Eric
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 18 Sep 2022, 16:21
by Jools
bekateen wrote: 18 Sep 2022, 14:51
Hi Jools, are you responding to my post in CLOG data issues? Are you agreeing that cf_guianense is psilogaster?
Cheers, Eric
I didn't see that, so I will go look.
Cheers,
Jools
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 27 Nov 2022, 08:36
by bekateen
August came late, but Christmas came early... Finally, after three months, most of the species I collected or bought in Iquitos in August landed in California. Of course, wild caught fish are prone to mortality, so I'm told that the local students and managers at ARCOF worked to replace some of the fish that died between my stay and shipping. I can't thank them enough.
, but the key (HERE) for the species does not immediately get me there. The body seems too slender vertically, and the abdomen completely lacks spots. Nope... they are Callichthys callichthys.
Can you tell if the two doradids shown in photos are different or same species???
Cheers, Eric
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 27 Nov 2022, 09:27
by Jools
The pattern is different, but to me, they look very similar morphologically just from the pics posted. That's a decent-sized Batrochoglanis!
Jools
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 19 Jan 2023, 23:37
by bekateen
The lanceolata are finally starting to macho up!
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 20 Jan 2023, 11:12
by Shane
They look great!
-Shane
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 20 Jan 2023, 17:54
by bekateen
Thanks Shane! Yes I'm quite happy with them and they're doing well. I wish though that I had received the Rineloricaria morrowi in the shipment. Those are much less commonly imported than lanceolata.
Cheers, Eric
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 12 Feb 2023, 08:37
by bekateen
bekateen wrote: 19 Jan 2023, 23:37
The lanceolata are finally starting to macho up!
After reading a Facebook post by Junior Chuctaya and a reply from Emanuel Neuhaus, I learned that this Peruvian Ancistrus is part of a study and as of now it's being investigated as
sensu stricto, and the SL of the Peruvian fish is at least 4 cm longer than the max SL recorded for the Guyana populations. Molecular data is going to be important to unite or split the Peru and Guyana populations.
AUM 48162. The photo's caption reads "185.3 mm SL" for the specimen shown. But if you use the 1 cm scale bar of the photo to estimate the same specimen's SL, you obtain about 85 mm SL; and in the species text narrative (page 24, inside the "Specimens examined" paragraph), this same museum sample contains no specimen larger than 87.8 mm SL. I think it's pretty clear that the "185.3 mm SL" is a typographical error. So when I say Peruvian fish are 4 cm larger than the described populations, I'm going off the SL of my big male at about 140 mm SL as shown in my photo here.
I've had some of these for 16 months now and I'm kinda surprised they haven't yet bred. Patience....
bekateen wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 02:55
We returned to the same spot off the Nanay this afternoon. Hugely successful... but you'll have to wait till at least tomorrow for pictures. Among today's catch:
(also about 8-10 cm SL) and 2 or 3 smaller individuals.
Wow, did I underestimate this! 15.06 cm SL!
Eric when you go on your collecting trips do you ever take note of plants and trees growing in and around collection points most folks just check water parameters.
Jeanne
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 14 Apr 2023, 18:57
by bekateen
Hi Jeanne,
I have a few photos of the area, but I don't take close-up photos or document identities of the plants along the shorelines. In the streams where I collected, there are essentially no submerged plants. The stream beds are fine sand, leaf litter and submerged logs and branches. The shorelines are either bare mud because of human activity, or they are overgrown with long terrestrial grasses dangling into the water or in some cases there are floating mats of plants (I guess technically those are aquatic plants).
In the streams I've sampled, pH is between 4-6 and TDS is often down around 15-30ppm.
Cheers, Eric
Re: Fishes near Iquitos
Posted: 09 May 2023, 02:41
by bekateen
bekateen wrote: 14 Apr 2023, 17:45
After reading a Facebook post by Junior Chuctaya and a reply from Emanuel Neuhaus, I learned that this Peruvian Ancistrus is part of a study and as of now it's being investigated as
sensu stricto, and the SL of the Peruvian fish is at least 4 cm longer than the max SL recorded for the Guyana populations. Molecular data is going to be important to unite or split the Peru and Guyana populations.
I've had some of these for 16 months now and I'm kinda surprised they haven't yet bred. Patience....
Trip #3: I'm back in lquitos at the Amazon Research Center for Ornamental Fishes to work, this time for four weeks. My first catch: I think it's another
, just bigger than the four adults I have from my last trip. In the river, when we first caught it,
my quick view made me think initially that it might be a different species or even genus because of its larger size. We were at or near the type locality of
Today we fished the main channel of the Rio Itaya. Caught Hypoptopoma, lots of Pims, one small shovelnose, two striped raphaels, some mouse cats, and one novel
Two fish are shown. The first one is much larger than the second.
Larger fish:
Smaller fish:
These fish are nothing like the Rineloricaria we caught either in 2022 [HERE] or 2021 [HERE] and [HERE], although they were all collected near each other. In my opinion, these are probably the least interesting (in regard to pigmentation) of the Rineloricaria species here.