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L260 or monte dourado?

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 21:01
by drpleco
I recently bought 9 2.5" hypancistrus from a friend who was downsizing his collection. They were originally bought from Atlantis Hatchery as L260 queens, but I'm not so sure that's what all of them are.

I have a colony of adults, but some of these look to have finer stripes. Is that how young queens look? Here are some not-so-good-pics...thanks for the help! (and please ignore the fluorescent pagodas - I tip them sideways for caves.).

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there are a few more I couldn't get pics of - but they look closest to the last fish.

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 21:19
by Janne
Picture 1, 2 and 5 is L411 Hypancistrus sp Monte Dourado, the other pictures is impossible to see what species it is.

Janne

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 21:42
by drpleco
nuts - that's what I thought. the ones where it's impossible to tell are the ones that look most like L411. so I guess I don't have any queens at all. :(

I guess it's not worth growing them out to add to the L260 colony then!

thanks for the ID!

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 22:38
by tzwms
I have never seen pictures of L411. Where would I go to learn more about them?

thanks,

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 23:13
by Dave Rinaldo
The Cat-eLog has

Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 23:32
by tzwms
thanks, :D

Posted: 19 Dec 2007, 16:16
by Mike_Noren
What should I look at to tell a Monte Dourado from an L-260? To me they look pretty much identical...

Posted: 19 Dec 2007, 16:29
by MatsP
Essentially the L260 has a "more contrasty pattern". I think Monte dourado also grows slightly bigger - but as usual, that's only useful on older individuals.

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Mats

Posted: 19 Dec 2007, 21:05
by Janne
L260 has much more distinctive pattern and the wormline pattern is different too.
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L411 as young can look quite similar with L260 but notice the finer wormline pattern...
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...but as adult their pattern change a lot, also the bodyshape gets more heavier compared to L260.
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Janne

Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 01:11
by MatsP
I have updated the L411 page with some text on the difference. Should be up there in a few days, Jools willing.

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Mats

Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 16:08
by apistomaster
I think you may also have a few L333 in your collection based on one of the photos; # 4.

Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 18:38
by Janne
I don't think pic 4 is L333 but I think that can be a L260 hiding in that cave, but another picture is needed.

Janne

Posted: 20 Dec 2007, 18:51
by drpleco
I agree that he looks close. Unfortunately, I traded the group to the LFS for credit on true adult 260's when they come in. I figured it's not worth the risk of hybridization.

In the store, however, he does look different than 260's. There's a tank full of similar sized juvi queens that have a definitely different contasting pattern. The black is blacker and the white is whiter, if that makes sense.