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Assorted syno ID
Posted: 07 Apr 2008, 13:37
by andywoolloo
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 07 Apr 2008, 14:13
by jippo
1 and 2 is Auchenoglanis occidentalis. 3, 4 and 6 is eupterus, 5 maybe S. notata(notatus) but better picture would be a big help with that one.
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 07 Apr 2008, 14:17
by Birger
Pictures one and two
Most likely this but could be one of the other Auchenoglanis species as juveniles have this pattern in different species if I remember correctly
picture five can not see very well...too blurry for me
And the others are eupterus as you say...the slightly different color may be from the brighter environment that these are in or possibly diet related
Birger
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Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 07 Apr 2008, 17:14
by Richard B
Jippo is correct with the ID's - notatus is the fish with the larger spots, Eupterus as the others - it doesn't look to be the best example i've seen by a long way
The Auchenoglanis is perhaps one to avaoid due to it's tankbusting maximum size & ability to shift copious amounts of substrate - one for the very few who can provide massive tanks (& not just a 6x2x2!)
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 07 Apr 2008, 22:25
by Richard B
After looking again & again the notatus might be a hybrid - it isn't a good photo - but the dorsal looks the wrong shape & there appears to be the dorsal body hump that appears on many hybrids
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 07 Apr 2008, 22:41
by andywoolloo
I thought the big eupterus' looked sad also.

I will bring a real camera next time and take better pics of the one that might be notatus. And I will take pics of some plecos.
Thanks guys.
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 08 Apr 2008, 01:00
by Birger
After looking again & again the notatus might be a hybrid - it isn't a good photo - but the dorsal looks the wrong shape & there appears to be the dorsal body hump that appears on many hybrids
Yeah...that is why I would like to see a better picture...I just get tired of bringing up the H word even though they are here to stay
Birger
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 08 Apr 2008, 08:57
by Richard B
hybrids are more than ever starting to closely resemble actual species which is more of a concern, (like "valentine"). It was just about bearable when they were clearly not genuine but is really worrying me now. This notatus may be genuine, but from poor quality, commercially bred stock?
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 08 Apr 2008, 11:19
by andywoolloo
Well I thought I got some more pics of that one fish but now that I am posting them I see it's a different colour substrate.

So I guess I will post them anyways? Either they moved him or it's a diff syno altogether.

Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 08 Apr 2008, 12:38
by piggy4
Hi Andy sorry to diverse a little but can you i.d. the barb on the last pic it has its caudal edged in black ?
Thanks .
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 08 Apr 2008, 21:59
by andywoolloo
I will go back to that fish store and see for you, I am not sure.

Any reason to go back is great!!

Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 09 Apr 2008, 01:23
by Birger
I would agree now the syno is
This notatus may be genuine, but from poor quality, commercially bred stock?
Or they get thrown in with some boisterous fish (read usually cichlids) and left to fend for themselves which can take it's toll as well
but can you i.d. the barb on the last pic it has its caudal edged in black ?
Is it not Barbonymus schwanenfeldii (Tinfoil Barb)
Birger
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 10 Apr 2008, 12:09
by piggy4
Just to clarify, the Barb with the black edge running along the outer edge of its caudal is slightly obscured by another barb with reddish fins ! I've kept Barbs for years and for some reason i cant put a name to it ,Birger i can understand your guess at a Tinfoil , but i've never seen one with a black outer edging to its caudal !
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 10 Apr 2008, 12:37
by Mike_Noren
The reddish-finned barb looks like a
Barbonymus, presumably
schwanenfeldi although several
Barbonymus are similar-looking. The barb with the leading black edges
might be
Poropuntius malcolmi?
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 10 Apr 2008, 13:05
by Richard B
Yes - from the new photos S. Notatus!
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 10 Apr 2008, 14:04
by Birger
Birger i can understand your guess at a Tinfoil , but i've never seen one with a black outer edging to its caudal !
Yes you are right, I knew there was black but I had it in the wrong place...I was going by memory which I should never ever do
Birger
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 15 Apr 2008, 23:12
by andywoolloo
piggy4 wrote:
Hi Andy sorry to diverse a little but can you i.d. the barb on the last pic it has its caudal edged in black ?
Thanks
I finally got back to the fish store. On the tank, which may not mean anything really,

but on the tank it says the following:
silver dollar
Red Hook
Tin foil barb
So it could be any of those?
Does that help?
Re: Assorted syno ID
Posted: 16 Apr 2008, 12:30
by piggy4
Ok Andy thanks for looking for me , the fish is a Tinfoil , the black edge is actually RED ,oooop's SORRY !