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Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 29 Jun 2008, 01:37
by Birger
To me this Phyllonemus sp(1) is Phyllonemus filinemus
Dusky color, shorter barbels as opposed to brown color and long barbels
Birger
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 01 Jul 2008, 08:20
by Jools
I am not sure why this was labelled as such but I have a scant memory that the fish was identified as this species in the past but was moved for some reason.
I can't for the life of me remember. Maybe DInyar or Sid Guppy can recall.
Jools
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 06 Aug 2010, 22:17
by MatsP
Bump.
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Mats
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 08 Aug 2010, 14:08
by sidguppy
I can't recall, but maybe it was labelled such because the person who made the original photograph wasn;t familiar with a described Phyllonemus species without the leafy barbels and hence named it 'spec'?
to confuse things; Phyllonemus brichardi also misses the flat ends on the barbels.......it still could be brichardi
I also have heard rumours about a 6"+ species of Phyllonemus again and again. never saw one, though, unfortunately.
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 08 Aug 2010, 14:47
by Jools
sidguppy wrote:I can't recall, but maybe it was labelled such because the person who made the original photograph wasn;t familiar with a described Phyllonemus species without the leafy barbels and hence named it 'spec'?
to confuse things; Phyllonemus brichardi also misses the flat ends on the barbels.......it still could be brichardi
I also have heard rumours about a 6"+ species of Phyllonemus again and again. never saw one, though, unfortunately.
I kind of remember there was a reason it wasn't P. brichardi. This is what happens when we don't update the catelog at the point of time IDs are current.
Jools
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 08 Aug 2010, 14:54
by sidguppy
check this....
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/c ... php?sid=71
checked the description and if the distance of dorsal and adipose is true, the sp 1 in the catelog is definitely filinemus.
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 08 Aug 2010, 15:07
by MatsP
I met Michael Hardman at the CSG conference, and have had some e-mail discusssions with him. I'll ask if he can ID the fish in question...
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Mats
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 11 Sep 2010, 13:34
by Jools
*bump*
Jools
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 11 Sep 2010, 15:09
by MatsP
Sorry, I wrote to Michael and had some disucssion on the subject, and here's the conclusion:
Michael Hardman wrote:It's always tough to make id's from photographs. There's a chance the fish in question is a juvenile Chrysichthys brachynema, if you're reasonably sure it came from Lake Tanganyika. If it's Phyllonemus (and I'm not sure it is), it is most likely P. filinemus - a species I haven't seen live specimens of and which can often look different from the shrivelled cigars I pull out of alcohol. I'm sorry I can't be more definite - I'm afraid I'd need the specimen to go any further.
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Mats
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 21:00
by Jools
OK, happy for it to get moved. Have you a new species to add to "re-use" the sp(1) entry? E.G. Rename it.
Jools
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 14 Sep 2010, 00:50
by Birger
Jools wrote:OK, happy for it to get moved. Have you a new species to add to "re-use" the sp(1) entry? E.G. Rename it.
Jools
I could do it...I have some Amphilius to add, one of them is new.
Birger
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 14 Sep 2010, 09:04
by Jools
OK, let me know the new species and I will plonk it into place.
Jools
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 02 Oct 2010, 02:39
by Birger
Jools can you make
Phyllonemus sp(1) turn into
in Pimelodidae.
Then we can go ahead and move this to resolved
Birger
Re: Phyllonemus sp(1)
Posted: 02 Oct 2010, 10:36
by Jools
Done.
Jools
