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LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 25 Jan 2009, 13:27
by miamitj
My LFS had a couple cool looking and very active cats in their display tank. Apparently they are WC in my area (Miami) and he caught one for me and gave it to me. Its been in my tank for a couple months now and it one of my favorite cats but the LFS is now closed and I cant remember what species it is. Anyone have any idea?
ETA: I know its in the Hoplosternum family but figure out which one since several look similar to me ... (coloration is off for it to be a Megalechis picta correct?)
These are the ones I narrowed it down too ...
Hoplosternum littorale
Hoplosternum magdalenae
Hoplosternum punctatum
Megalechis picta
Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 25 Jan 2009, 14:28
by Chrysichthys
Probably Hoplosternum littorale, because that one is known to have become established in Florida, and is locally called the brown hoplo (even though they aren't brown).
Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 25 Jan 2009, 18:52
by Jools
Pretty sure it is
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Jools
Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 26 Jan 2009, 14:15
by Chrysichthys
As far as I know the other species haven't become established in Florida, but H. littorale is well-documented.
Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 26 Jan 2009, 16:20
by sidguppy
littorale is an exotic pest in Florida???
Yo, American fishermen: PLEAZE rid yourself of the pest and make a buck at the same time while exporting them to mainland Europe
this way you can turn a problem into a profit

and we get access to a fish that only occurs in trade in the the UK, Japan or the US.......
Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 26 Jan 2009, 17:21
by Chrysichthys
sidguppy wrote:littorale is an exotic pest in Florida???
One report said it could become the 'dominant biomass' in some bodies of water.
They're supposed to be good to eat, though, that could be one way of making use of them.
Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 26 Jan 2009, 17:26
by Richard B
I think Sid would be v disappointed if they all got eaten if there was a remote possibility he could get his hands on a trio or two..

Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 26 Jan 2009, 18:41
by MatsP
Richard B wrote:I think Sid would be v disappointed if they all got eaten if there was a remote possibility he could get his hands on a trio or two..

I agree, but both suggestions are reasonable solutions to the problem of getting rid of pest fish. I'd take a pair of living ones too... [Despite Sid's suggestion that they "are only sold in the UK ...", they are not exactly common here either.
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Mats
Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 26 Jan 2009, 19:13
by Bas Pels
Chrysichthys wrote:sidguppy wrote:littorale is an exotic pest in Florida???
One report said it could become the 'dominant biomass' in some bodies of water.
They're supposed to be good to eat, though, that could be one way of making use of them.
As fas as I know, people in Surinam eat them - and nowhere else
I'd be very happy with a few of those pests too
please

Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 27 Jan 2009, 14:37
by Chrysichthys
I have some. They can be a bit exasperating, because they beg incessantly for food, even when you would think that they can't possibly still be hungry.
Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 27 Jan 2009, 14:42
by Chrysichthys
MatsP wrote:[Despite Sid's suggestion that they "are only sold in the UK ...", they are not exactly common here either
Wholesale Tropicals had a tank full of juveniles last time I was there, priced at £5.00 each I think. Lots of them, they probably still have some.
Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 15 Mar 2009, 20:28
by miamitj
Thx for the responses ...
Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 08:30
by sidguppy
As fas as I know, people in Surinam eat them - and nowhere else
wellll, you're wrong on this count; I've eaten this species, back in the day when it wasn't a rare fish.
I have to admit that both Megalechis species taste a fair bit better than Hoplosternum littorale.
all three large 'hoplo' speciescan be bought as frozen fish in most Surinam toko's.
they're very common as a food supply and very rare as a live fish over here.

Re: LFS gave me this WC beauty - but what is it?
Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 16:13
by Mike_Noren
MatsP wrote:both suggestions are reasonable solutions to the problem of getting rid of pest fish
A number of introduced species in Florida would be very welcome at my LFS - for instance I'd really like to get hold of some of their
Hemichromis letourneuxii,
Poecilia velifera, or any of the transplanted
Ammocrypta/
Etheostoma.