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Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 11 May 2009, 15:30
by Cattleya
Hi
again switzerland :thumbsup:
M 21cm
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F 17cm
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Fry 2days
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Total: 129 Fry

http://www.catfishbase.com/portal/Datab ... fault.aspx

lg Udo

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 11 May 2009, 15:56
by MatsP
Great work!

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Mats

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 11 May 2009, 20:27
by exasperatus2002
Beautiful! congratulations.

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 11 May 2009, 20:50
by Lloydy
Good job and good luck with them :thumbsup:

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 11 May 2009, 20:50
by Cristoffer Forssander
Congratulations Udo! :thumbsup:

How big is the aquarium? How many eggs did the female lay?

Switzerland must be amazing Pseudacanthicus breeding water indeed, or there are some very skilful aquarists in this country! :D
Four species bred of this genus, in a singel, year is just unbelievable!!!

Best Regards
Cristoffer

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 11 May 2009, 22:29
by andywoolloo
amazing! can we see a full tank shot? is it a species only tank?

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 11 May 2009, 22:48
by Cattleya
Hi
How big is the aquarium? How many eggs did the female lay
The L97 are smal
4 L97 on 130cm X 60cm x 40 cm tank, nothing else.
Total: 129 Fry
= about 129-140 eggs .
30 gC, 120 µ,

lg Udo

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 12 May 2009, 12:43
by DutchFry
congratulations!!! very nice work :thumbsup:

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 22 May 2009, 06:52
by Cattleya
Hi
Fry 2 weks
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lg Udo

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 22 May 2009, 09:53
by Cristoffer Forssander
Very nice!!!

Can you tell us a bit more about the breeding? Temperature, pH?

Best regards
Cristoffer

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 23 May 2009, 07:13
by Cattleya
Hi
4 L97 on 130cm X 60cm x 40 cm tank, nothing else
= about 129-140 eggs .
30 gC, 120 µ,
=> 30 Grad Celsius and PH about 7
many water changes (2 x 30% Day)
nothing special :wink:

lg Udo

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 23 May 2009, 09:54
by ElTofi
Schöne Arbeit wieder aus der Schweiz :lol:

congratulations Udo, definitely nothing to do with my Pseuda L320 fry... not the same pattern, not the same color... it seems you were right again about their
ID. Mine were not L97 :thumbsup: :lol: :lol:

I'd be glad to follow the growing of them. Feed the topic as long as you can, please.

PS : du kommst bei mir wenn du willst. Ich wäre froh ein deutschsprachiges Gespräch mit dir über L-welse zu haben.

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 23 May 2009, 11:09
by Bas Pels
ElTofi wrote:Schöne Arbeit wieder aus der Schweiz :lol:
Yes, what is it that makes your fish breed like rabbits? I would not presume you feed the cheese, or provide them with clocks :lol:

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 23 May 2009, 11:12
by ElTofi
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 23 May 2009, 12:01
by Cattleya
Hi

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I would not presume you feed the cheese, or provide them with clocks
no, we feed Swiss- chocolate and threaten with the Swiss Army Knives :D

@ELTofi
se you at the http://www.l-wels-tage.de/en/ ?

lg Udo

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 27 May 2009, 15:55
by ElTofi
you bet ! I'll be there... with a couple of people from "Frenchy lands"...

some people of AquAgora will take the journey there...

it will be great to meet all the speakers as I only met them "on the web" till yet...

is there any topic about this very subject on PC ?

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 31 May 2009, 04:55
by Rohan Richardson
First and foremost well done and congratulations with their spawning.
The two water 30% changes daily were at 30c and a ph of 7 if i'm not asking to much what was the kh and gh of these water changes and what were the water parameters before you moved into spawning them?
Four of the pseudo species in a year in Switzerland i agree the person that posted that fact brilliant work be proud of yourselves!!! :thumbsup: :foggie: :thumbsup:
Rohan R

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 31 May 2009, 08:27
by Cattleya
Hi
next L97 spawn in work ;)

Bevor: PH 7.5-8.0 and about 400 µ (i dont no KH GH )30gC
then
every day 2 times watterchanges with Rainwater-Mix and 120 µ

sorry for my english

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 31 May 2009, 11:42
by Haavard Stoere
Wow! Another beautiful species of cactus pleco bred in Switzerland :thumbsup:

I am looking forward to seing the young develop further.

Keep us posted :D

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 01 Jun 2009, 09:20
by Cattleya
Hi
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lg Udo

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 01 Jun 2009, 10:01
by andywoolloo
beautiful! :thumbsup:

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 01 Jun 2009, 18:25
by hotchiliz
hi Cattleya,

My spinosus breed today. However, when i notice it, it is already out from the cave and there are a bunch of them. I have transfer them into a breeder box. I would like to check, how long would the fries start to hatch?

thanks.

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 01 Jun 2009, 18:40
by ElTofi
hi, I read the thread and I give you my experience for both L25 and L320. The eggs, if fertilized, hatch after 7 days at 28°C in all the spawnings I had.

But ! It's quite difficult to bring the eggs till hatching in a nursery, without Mr. Dad fanning and cleaning them all the time... (mushrooms, moistures).

Udo, did you have other timing with L114 and L97 ?

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 01 Jun 2009, 20:17
by Cattleya
Salü
7 days at 28°C
about 7-8 Days at 29 °C

lg Udo

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 02 Jun 2009, 20:43
by hotchiliz
ElTofi wrote:hi, I read the thread and I give you my experience for both L25 and L320. The eggs, if fertilized, hatch after 7 days at 28°C in all the spawnings I had.

But ! It's quite difficult to bring the eggs till hatching in a nursery, without Mr. Dad fanning and cleaning them all the time... (mushrooms, moistures).

Udo, did you have other timing with L114 and L97 ?
i never wanted to bring them into the nursery, but when i saw the eggs, these whole bunch of them are already all out in the cave. So i had no choice but to keep them there. Now, i was suspecting if they have been fertilised as i read that when the eggs are not healthy or fertilised, they tend to get kick out of the cave by the DAD. Is it true??

Today 10 eggs turn bad, i had to slowly "picked" them out one by one. i hope the rest can be successful.

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 15 Jun 2009, 12:59
by OlePaulsen
Congrats!!!! More pictures of the setup?

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 17 Jun 2009, 09:59
by Cristoffer Forssander
hotchiliz wrote:
ElTofi wrote:hi, I read the thread and I give you my experience for both L25 and L320. The eggs, if fertilized, hatch after 7 days at 28°C in all the spawnings I had.

But ! It's quite difficult to bring the eggs till hatching in a nursery, without Mr. Dad fanning and cleaning them all the time... (mushrooms, moistures).

Udo, did you have other timing with L114 and L97 ?
i never wanted to bring them into the nursery, but when i saw the eggs, these whole bunch of them are already all out in the cave. So i had no choice but to keep them there. Now, i was suspecting if they have been fertilised as i read that when the eggs are not healthy or fertilised, they tend to get kick out of the cave by the DAD. Is it true??

Today 10 eggs turn bad, i had to slowly "picked" them out one by one. i hope the rest can be successful.

If there is something wrong with the water, the dad can also kick out the eggs. As you're eggs vere fertilised, this can be a possibility. But exactly what is wrong is harder to tell. I have experienced this with other species. I also think you need to roll the egges between the fingers in order to help them to hatch. This is not that hard if you are careful... i succesfully done this, just some weeks ago with L107.

Very nice images!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


BEst regards

Cristoffer

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 18 Jun 2009, 19:09
by hotchiliz
Cristoffer Forssander wrote:
hotchiliz wrote:
ElTofi wrote:hi, I read the thread and I give you my experience for both L25 and L320. The eggs, if fertilized, hatch after 7 days at 28°C in all the spawnings I had.

But ! It's quite difficult to bring the eggs till hatching in a nursery, without Mr. Dad fanning and cleaning them all the time... (mushrooms, moistures).

Udo, did you have other timing with L114 and L97 ?
i never wanted to bring them into the nursery, but when i saw the eggs, these whole bunch of them are already all out in the cave. So i had no choice but to keep them there. Now, i was suspecting if they have been fertilised as i read that when the eggs are not healthy or fertilised, they tend to get kick out of the cave by the DAD. Is it true??

Today 10 eggs turn bad, i had to slowly "picked" them out one by one. i hope the rest can be successful.

If there is something wrong with the water, the dad can also kick out the eggs. As you're eggs vere fertilised, this can be a possibility. But exactly what is wrong is harder to tell. I have experienced this with other species. I also think you need to roll the egges between the fingers in order to help them to hatch. This is not that hard if you are careful... i succesfully done this, just some weeks ago with L107.

Very nice images!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


BEst regards

Cristoffer
I finally realised the reasons. Remember,i shifted the parents together with another fertile female down, making it a trio. After the eggs were laid and the dad is looking after them in the cave, the other female tries to force her way into cave to breed with the Male too. This, not only caused severe bite marks on the dad's body, she also have it too. I guess that's the closest possible reason for the eggs to be kicked outside the caves.

Now they are in their Day 18, they have their colour up. However, they are still not feeding on solid food.
More updates can be viewed here:
http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/showt ... p?t=377269

thanks.

Re: Fry Pseudacanthicus sp. L97

Posted: 22 Jun 2009, 08:58
by Cattleya
hi
in this size ==> Image
they must eat solid fod !

Udo

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