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i have no clue at all of wich this could be exactly, some call it gibbiceps but i dont think that is correct





and is this a hipostomus plecostomus? or paradilis?



i don't care what they are, i love 'm alot, but some others cant stop bitching to me about the real names
thats why i come see the pro's for answers

the first pictures show

the last two pics show

Hi
I'd say the first one is a young , and the second either or , depending on the pattern on the underside. Most likely P.pardalis.
[EDIT]Tim beat me to it![/EDIT]
HTH
Martin

Dutchfry & Martin S both beat me so all i'll say is they are both correct!