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Rescued catfish ID please :)

Posted: 26 Nov 2009, 18:57
by TheSmurfinator
I don't know anything about this guy as he came with a tank full (overstocked) of catfish.He's about 6 inches long and has a very full body....

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Re: Rescued catfish ID please :)

Posted: 26 Nov 2009, 19:04
by MatsP
"Spotted Dora" or "Spotted Talking Catfish". I'm 95% certain that it's not something else.

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Mats

Re: Rescued catfish ID please :)

Posted: 26 Nov 2009, 23:12
by ayrtoninst
I agree with Mats ID. He looks identical to my pectinifrons.

If you don't have the space to house him long term, I would be willing to give him a good home :thumbsup:


BTW: they get to rather more than the 5.1" stated in the Cat-e-log. Some of mine are almost 8" long now. Can someone update the log?

Re: Rescued catfish ID please :)

Posted: 26 Nov 2009, 23:37
by MatsP
ayrtoninst wrote:I agree with Mats ID. He looks identical to my pectinifrons.

If you don't have the space to house him long term, I would be willing to give him a good home :thumbsup:


BTW: they get to rather more than the 5.1" stated in the Cat-e-log. Some of mine are almost 8" long now. Can someone update the log?
Almost 8" standard length or total length? Do you have a clear photo of the fish next to a ruler? I'm not saying you are wrong, it's just that we get this quite often: "My fish is surely bigger than what the Cat-eLog says", but it's quite often a combination of "almost 8 inches" is actually closer to 7" than 8", and that people are measuring the whole fish, where the Cat-eLog used "Standard length", which, technically means nose to the last vertebrate, but in laymans terms, we can simplify it to use the "nose to end of the fleshy bits of the body".

But I have in the past "lengthened" the size of several species. But the bar is that either:
1. A document of scientific standing.
2. A clear photo with measure visible in the photo.

Edit: Based on the figures in Checklist of Freshwater Fishes of South and Central America, I have changed the size to 150mm. It may take a few days to get through, as Jools has to "vet" any changes to the Cat-eLog data, and I think he's going to be a bit too busy to do this sort of work for the next few days, as he's at the L-number days in Hannover .

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Mats

Re: Rescued catfish ID please :)

Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 15:45
by Chrysichthys
I've seen ones for sale that were bigger than the Cat-eLog size, so I agree with the upward increase.

Re: Rescued catfish ID please :)

Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 16:01
by MatsP
Chrysichthys wrote:I've seen ones for sale that were bigger than the Cat-eLog size, so I agree with the upward increase.
Yes, the whole problem comes down to documentation - "it looks bigger than 150mm" is not the same as "I've measured it, and it is 170mm". And the easy way to prove it is to photograph it next to a rule. I can't really enter "it grows to more than 150 mm" in the number field in the database. But I can enter whatever length we can determine on a ruler/tape-measure. Or as I have done in this case, increase the number based on documents that are trustworthy - in this case fishbase, backed up by [well, copied from] CLOFFSCA.

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Mats

Re: Rescued catfish ID please :)

Posted: 27 Nov 2009, 21:30
by grokefish
I agree, the female in my breeding project was 6" before they got fried. :(

That fish is in very good condition and I would say it is a male.