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Help sexing LDA33/L142
Posted: 06 Feb 2010, 23:03
by krazyGeoff
Hi there,
I have a group of 6 of these and I "think" that I have an idea what sex they are.
I was wondering if anyone wanted to assist with sexing these for me?
Here are the subjects:
Subject 1: Length (TL) = 18cm
Subject 2: Length (TL) = 18cm
Subject3: Length (TL) = 14cm
Subject 4: Length (TL) = 16cm
Subject 5: Length (TL) = 15cm
Subject 6: Length (TL) = 14.5cm
Thanks
Geoff
Edit - changed title
help Sexing LDA33/L142
Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 21:34
by krazyGeoff
Ummmm........
Pictures not good enough / wrong angle?
Too small to sex?
not interesting enough?
wrong forum?
wrong title? (changed title)
Is it fair to assume that the females are darker / blacker in their base colouration? (based on Cat-eLog pics)
Thanks
Geoff
Re: Help sexing LDA33/L142
Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 21:48
by MatsP
Looking at head-shape (wider for males) and pectoral fin odontodes (hairy on males).
#1 - Male
#2 - Male
#3 - Female
#4 - Female
#5 - Unsure
#6 - Unsure
I'm not at all sure about the above, but it's my "best guess".
Certainly, if I had to pick a three fish to make a trio, I'd pick #1, #3 and #4.
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Mats
Re: Help sexing LDA33/L142
Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 22:18
by hotplecogirl
Are they even LDA33?
Re: Help sexing LDA33/L142
Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 22:41
by MatsP
Good question. But I don't know what ELSE it would be. Why do you think it's NOT LDA33?
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Mats
Re: Help sexing LDA33/L142
Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 01:55
by hotplecogirl
Well i think the spots appear too small?I have bought some LDA33 or so i think and there spots are much bigger and not as many.
Re: Help sexing LDA33/L142
Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 09:22
by krazyGeoff
Thanks,
Boys and girls is always a good start.
Cheers
Re: Help sexing LDA33/L142
Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 09:36
by panaque
I came to the same conclusions as Mats. #6 looks like it might be a male judging from its shape but it may need to grow a bit more .
krazyGeoff wrote:Is it fair to assume that the females are darker / blacker in their base colouration? (based on Cat-eLog pics)
I doubt it...
hotplecogirl wrote:Well i think the spots appear too small?I have bought some LDA33 or so i think and there spots are much bigger and not as many.
The spots are quite variable in this species, aren't they?
Re: Help sexing LDA33/L142
Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 09:38
by DJ-don
i'm not very confident but personally i think all of them are female besides 1 & 2
Re: Help sexing LDA33/L142
Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 10:06
by wrasse
I agree 1 and 2 could well be males. I think they all need to grow more to be certain. Are you getting any indications from their behaviour?
I also wonder if they are LDA33. I've seen them with bigger -and fewer- bright white spots. Maybe its a regional variation.
Re: Help sexing LDA33/L142
Posted: 10 Feb 2010, 11:06
by MatsP
I'd say the spot size is roughly matching this:
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Mats
Re: Help sexing LDA33/L142
Posted: 11 Feb 2010, 09:55
by krazyGeoff
wrasse wrote:I agree 1 and 2 could well be males. I think they all need to grow more to be certain. Are you getting any indications from their behaviour?
I also wonder if they are LDA33. I've seen them with bigger -and fewer- bright white spots. Maybe its a regional variation.
1 and 2 both spend all their time "fanning". They no longer enjoy each others company.
1 I call "the watcher" as he? seems quite interested in sitting on a rock watching me as I go about my daily fish chores.
I have not managed to get them to enter a cave of any shape or material yet.
They were purchased in groups of 3, the first were 10ish cm, the second were 6ish cm. Normally their base colour is somewhat darker, and the spots also appear brighter.
Thanks
Geoff