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Amphilius krefftii
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 21:47
by TP
I think the newly added Amphilius krefftii is actually a junior synonym of Amphilius uranoscopus. This is from fishbase and also the Checklist.
Cheers
Tony
Re: Amphilius krefftii
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 22:29
by Birger
Also COF
Current status: Synonym of Amphilius uranoscopus (Pfeffer 1889)
Keeping in mind patterns do not always discern a species, If you are looking at the pattern on the body there are two forms considered A.uranoscopus; a saddled pattern similar to what is shown here
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/im ... e_id=11307 and a spotted form of which there is one shown shown here
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/im ... ge_id=6174
Not looking to second guess John Friel's identification but I guess I am.
Would not surprise me if they did become two separate species again.
Birger
Re: Amphilius krefftii
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 09:25
by MatsP
Yes, you are right, it is currently a synonym. I made a slight mistake, as I misread the reply from Albert Thompson. He is working on a paper that will split it off into A. krefftii, but it's not published yet, so it should be A. uranoscopus for now.
I will move it (and replace A. krefftii with another Amphilius species that we haven't got...)
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Mats
Re: Amphilius krefftii
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 12:08
by Mike_Noren
Birger wrote:If you are looking at the pattern on the body there are two forms considered A.uranoscopus
It also looks like the second one is more elongate than the first, HOWEVER are you sure the two names correspond to those two forms?
Re: Amphilius krefftii
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 12:12
by MatsP
Well, the picture is now under A. uranoscopus. I can't rename the A. krefftii, as that feature is only available to Jools. I have put a comment in - Jools may decide to remove it or rename it to another species not yet in the Cat-eLog (I think we have a few of those).
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Mats
Re: Amphilius krefftii
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 13:27
by Jools
Sorted.
Jools
Re: Amphilius krefftii
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 15:22
by Birger
Mike_Noren wrote:Birger wrote:If you are looking at the pattern on the body there are two forms considered A.uranoscopus
It also looks like the second one is more elongate than the first, HOWEVER are you sure the two names correspond to those two forms?
No I am not entirely sure which will be which if I understand your question correctly, the reason I used "similar"
a saddled pattern similar to what is shown here
I do know the populations from the East Flowing rivers have that "saddled" look. The population from the Mfwizi river being much darker yet.
Now I see that Seegers has a third name A. kivuensis which may be a heavily spotted amphilius from the Northern Malagarasi system.
It will be interesting to see the upcoming paper mentioned above.
Birger