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Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 30 Mar 2010, 23:28
by MatsP
These are from Mark Smith:
#1
Corydoras cf septenrionalis Peru.jpg
#2
Corydoras cf pulcher.jpg
#3
Corydoras cf melanistius.jpg
#4
Corydoras cf concolor.jpg
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Mats

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 15:47
by Janne
#4 I think.

Janne

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 17:52
by Hitch
I agree with Janne, 4=concolor

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 18:26
by Coryologist
The body and head shape is not correct for C. concolor. I would go with a variant of C. aeneus. - Frank

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 19:27
by Birger Amundsen
# 1 looks like acutus.

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 20:30
by Coryman
Having looked closely at all the image, I think that they are.
1. C. cervinus
2. C. sp. C141
3. Could be either C. robustus or C. sp. C49
4. C. aeneus type venezuelanus. I don't think it's C. concolor, the head shape is to pointed, it should be short and round, also the body should be a lot deeper.


C. aeneus type venezuelanus
Image


C. concolor
Image
Images courtesy Ian Fuller & Corydorasworld.com

Ian

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 20:48
by sunfish
#4
maybe concolor, definitely not venezuelanus. Venezuelanus don't have a darker streak above the eye (concolor do, but it's only visible when they are pale). And venezuelanus have an orange spot on the "shoulder" which this fish is missing.

#3
C. delphax?

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 08:51
by Birger Amundsen
Was a bit quick on # 1 also think it`s cervinus now, have cept them my selves :D
Here is on of the females I had.

Image

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 12:46
by MatsP
#1 - It looks similar to C. cervinus, but it's supposed to be from Peru, and Rio Guapore is on the north-eastern border of Bolivia and Brazil, which is quite some distance from Peru.

#2 I'll add as C141.

#3 & #4 - it would be good if you lot could AGREE on ONE species... Or agree that it's "not any of the current Cat-eLog species".

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Mats

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 00:03
by Coryman
No 3 could also be C. delfax, but I would not be so bold as to say it definitely was without having collection location information.

No 4 may be concolor, but if it is it is a very young one.

Ian

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 00:22
by mummymonkey
A picture of one of my young concolor. (Original image is on Scotcat)

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 18 Apr 2010, 11:44
by MatsP
So, I'm still not sure what to do with these - it seems like there are lots of different suggestions, but not a lot of agreement... I don't quite think the "concolor" is actually C. concolor, as it's got the wrong nose shape...

I really would like to add these pictures. But I also don't want to cause further confusion...

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Mats

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 18 Apr 2010, 11:56
by Jools
I think Mats you are looking for a steer. I'd like to put #4 in as a stressed C. concolor juvenile please. People that know a lot more than me about have posted different things, but I'm going to play the "my database" card. :-) Also, the other picture from Mark shows an equally washed out specimen that I don't think is a great choice for #1 despite being a great pic (but of a not very great specimen).

I think there are two varieties of imported but let's not get muddled in that right now.

Jools

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 18 Apr 2010, 12:10
by Jools
On #3, I'd be inclined to put it in . It doesn't appear to have the absence of pigmentation horizontal lines of other suggested species. Let these forever now be known as Jools' go faster cory stripes! ;-)

Jools

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 18 Apr 2010, 12:16
by MatsP
Jools,

Thanks for the "steering". I will add as you suggest - we can always move them around later... ;)

Adding pictures is GENERALLY easy when the pictures are correctly labeled and/or you know the species yourself. But when they are not matching what is in the Cat-eLog under that name, you want advice. When you then get three or four different suggestions from some of the world experts, it's not quite so easy...

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Mats

Re: Cory ID's for Cat-eLog.

Posted: 19 Apr 2010, 15:13
by sunfish
I'd back up Jools (I have to support my own suggestions, don't I? :wink: )

I am pretty sure that no, 4 is a (young) C. concolor. And my delphax for no. 3 was based on the even distribution of the spots on the sides, which the other suggested species don't have.