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Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8" SL

Posted: 09 Oct 2010, 07:49
by knifegill
Measured without tail, my eigenmanni is larger than the max size listed in the cat-e-log. What hoops need jumping through to get the new length in? Just a good picture of the cat on a ruler?

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 09 Oct 2010, 08:03
by MatsP
Photo with a clearly visible ruler would be OK.

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Mats

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 09 Oct 2010, 10:16
by knifegill
Alright. I'll grab him (her?) during tomorrow's water change and get a few shots. Do I measure from the smallest lateral spike or the end of the muscular tissue in the peduncle?

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 09 Oct 2010, 10:29
by MatsP
To the end of the muscle. If you can get a precise measure whilst holding the fish, that would be great.

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Mats

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 09 Oct 2010, 19:44
by knifegill
Had the cat on the ruler and the camera died. I'm not going to stress her out again like that right now, so the photo will be coming next week. *kicks a rock*

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 09 Oct 2010, 20:13
by MatsP
knifegill wrote:Had the cat on the ruler and the camera died. I'm not going to stress her out again like that right now, so the photo will be coming next week. *kicks a rock*
Suggestion: Check that camera is fully loaded with fresh batteries and enough free space on the memory card BEFORE getting the fish ready... But yes, I've been there, done that too!

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Mats

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 10 Oct 2010, 01:00
by knifegill
The sad thing is, they were fresh batteries. Except that they were from a battery charger that had been left unplugged for a few hours. Apparently, that drained them. I figured they would still be holding charge enough for a few shots, but no.

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 11 Oct 2010, 11:45
by sidguppy
lithium

lithium is the way to go with camera's, believe me.

skip the rechargable batteries!
I missed out on Stonehenge because of exactly that.
they're all well and good for flash lights, a tiny radio, holiday clocks and whatever; but digital camera's are juice-hogs

especially when it's a camera with moving parts; like the smaller cameras that electronically telescope out when you start them.
you can suck all the juice out of a fully recharged battery by just a few 'telescope actions'.

I switched to lithium and my little camera's now up and running for 2 months on the first set!
hundreds and hundreds of pix taken, tried, fumbled, flashed, anything; the little lights still say "battery full" :shock:

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 22 Oct 2010, 05:40
by knifegill
Forgot about this whole thing. Pics tomorrow!

Lithium can last that long?! Whoa.

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 04:51
by knifegill
Got the pics and a good poke to the hand. Now my PC won't upload from my camera. Soon the pics will come!

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 19:09
by sidguppy
get one of those tiny USB card readers

those work without extra software.

connecting camera's to the PC often runs foul of bad software full of bugs or drivers that don't work.

but USB card readers are simple thingies that don't require any installation and usually they can be used for at least 4 or more different types of cards

they show up in the "my computer" map like you just installed a number of tiny harddrives.
very easy to use.

they come in a large variety, here's 1 example:
Image

mine is like this one; even works without its adaptor:
Image

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 08 Nov 2010, 05:25
by knifegill
I'd love one! But I'm in the hole $40 right now.

So I've tried to post pics here before and it never works. But I'll put them up on MFK and hopefully somebody can retrieve them.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forum ... ost4611531

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 08 Nov 2010, 13:36
by sidguppy
I only see a horrible ad banner where the picture should have been on MonsterfishKeepers.....

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 08:37
by knifegill
Yes, it's terribly depressing that PC is just plain awful about uploading pics. I try about twice a year and typically leave frustrated, wishing I could contribute to this forum but sent away disappointed. I am certain you'd have a more active forum if PC would host pics for itself like so many other forums. I've got tons of catfish pics I'd love to share but it never works so I get bored and spend more time on forums that allow me to share them. Some day I hope I will find this place more inviting as catfish are my favorite type of fish.

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 09:15
by Marc van Arc
Hello Knifegill,
I don't quite understand that this gives you so many problems, but at the same time something should be done about it.
I have to leave it to someone more "technical" to explain properly, but you can upload pictures from your PC and put them into your postings without any difficulty.
I mean, even I can do it. And you can take it me from me: that should say enough.


Btw: to any of those technical persons, would it be wise to do a step by step explanation of the above? The current explanation in the FAQ is probably too vague imho.
I'd do it myself, but my knowledge of the matter itself isn't good enough.

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 10:18
by MatsP
Knifegill:Can you e-mail a sample picture that is causing trouble. I'll try to see if I can spot what the problem is, and discuss with Jools if there is anything that need fixing...

[email protected]

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Mats

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 12:27
by Martin S
I can see them - have saved one to my local PC and will upload it here, although I guess it will have already been resized by MFK upload process...
Picture belonging to knifegill.
Picture belonging to knifegill.

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 14 Nov 2010, 21:58
by sidguppy
that's a good picture!
I'd say 8" SL, 9" TL

good enough for the catelog in any case; well done
:up:

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 18 Nov 2010, 12:50
by Jools
knifegill wrote:Yes, it's terribly depressing that PC is just plain awful about uploading pics. I try about twice a year and typically leave frustrated, wishing I could contribute to this forum but sent away disappointed. I am certain you'd have a more active forum if PC would host pics for itself like so many other forums. I've got tons of catfish pics I'd love to share but it never works so I get bored and spend more time on forums that allow me to share them. Some day I hope I will find this place more inviting as catfish are my favorite type of fish.
That's a very harsh comment. It is also in other factually incorrect, the forum has been able to host pics for over two years now. Can you explain please? Several here have offered to help, but you have not allowed us to look into it.

Jools

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 18 Nov 2010, 13:05
by Bijn
I use imageshack for uploading pics. It is really simple.

First you make you a free imageshack-account on http://img974.imageshack.us/registration/

After you have done that you download the imageshack-uploader: http://imageshack.us/content.php?page=uploader


you open your map which the pictures you want to upload, you open the uploader and you drag and drop the pictures in the uploader. Click the upload button and wait. When everything is uploaded you can choose to have the links for every picture separate or you can have them all in one time.


This works a lot faster than uploading the pictures on the forum, especially when you want to post the pictures on different fora, and it doesn't slow down the forum. If I had a forum uploading pic's would not be possible, there are better way's to share pictures.

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 18 Nov 2010, 13:11
by MatsP
The size is 200mm now.

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Mats

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 18 Nov 2010, 13:13
by Jools
Sorry for off topic(ish) post. It is probably better to have both. The problem with third party hosting, imageshack, for example, is that pictures may be unavailable in years to come. Look back at posts from 2003 for example and there are lots of now missing images. However, back in 2003, hosting was paid for in terms of disk, so uploading cost me more cash than it does now (CPU and bandwidth are now the costs).

Again, I've got both running now.

Jools

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 18 Nov 2010, 13:20
by MatsP
On the "attachment vs. external hosting", I agree - when you just have a single picture, or a couple of pictures (that are not meaningful to share with others in other respects), uploading them directly into the post is my preferred method.

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Mats

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 20:48
by Jools
knifegill wrote:Yes, it's terribly depressing that PC is just plain awful about uploading pics.
Knifegill,

Could you please respond to the questions asked of you in this topic.

Thanks,

Jools

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 23:05
by The.Dark.One
The fish measures about 7.5 inches SL IMO, not 8, so I would say 190mm if you are doing SL. Not sure if you want SL or TL?

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 23:11
by MatsP
We do measure standard length. I agree it's barely 8", but I went for somewhere around 7 3/4" - which is 197mm (using mental artihmetic approximation)... I think 200mm is "close enough".

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Mats

Re: Largest recorded orinocodoras eigenmanni? Mine is over 8

Posted: 19 Dec 2010, 23:49
by The.Dark.One
MatsP wrote:We do measure standard length. I agree it's barely 8", but I went for somewhere around 7 3/4" - which is 197mm (using mental artihmetic approximation)... I think 200mm is "close enough".

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Mats
Hi Mats

Actually I've just checked YAAS standards and we have it at 21cm SL anyway. This was based on a fish that CAS club members used to show in the 90's so 200mm is OK anyway.