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forum doesn't rescale or redirect?

Posted: 02 Sep 2011, 11:24
by sidguppy
the title is confusing, but I found two problems:

first is the rescaling of pictures
in a way it works, but not as intended.
when using IE the pictures aren't scaled down, but the right part is cut off....

second: when adding a replyto a forumtopic youdon't get redirected to your reply, but tothe top posting of that topic; so the "auto scroll down after putting a reply" or whatever it's called is bugged or not there.

again, I think this is IE related, I'll test it at home later, where I got a few different browsers to choose from.

Re: forum doesn't rescale or redirect?

Posted: 02 Sep 2011, 11:34
by MatsP
Right, so we have never had picture scaling - people aren't supposed to link to huge images... ;)

As to the reply problem, it should work. I'll have a look at it when I submit this...

Edit: It certainly works to get to the reply for me. Is this replying to a thread with many pictures in it? If so, it's likely that the post is "redirected to", but then the images are loaded later, causing the page to be redrawn, and your posted reply is now lower down on the screen than it originally was. Not something we can fix, since it's about the timing of downloading images vs. the textual content.

The way the browser works is that it starts downloading content in several streams, so whenever enough information has arrived, it draws the content it has received so far. Since text is nearly always a lot smaller than the picture content, the pictures arrive later. For an example of this effect, take a look at the "Glenny's cats" thread, for example. You can click the "view latest post", and it briefly shows that, then the pictures start loading, and eventually you are viewing the second or third post on the page, rather than the latest (15th for example), because all the pictures push down the content you wanted. Most annoying, but not much we can do about it [I think it's technically possible to do HTML layout that is "fixed", but I'd expect that to require a huge effort, and the value would be fairly small].

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Mats

Re: forum doesn't rescale or redirect?

Posted: 02 Sep 2011, 16:12
by sidguppy
you're wrong on both accounts

right now I'm at home and LO and BEHOLD i can see the entire fish....
what has changed: the resolution of the screen

so what happens is this:
at a large resolution everything is shown as intended; at a smaller one, pictures are chopped from the right angle.

that's not a rescale, but a bug; usually phpBB fora don't do that.

this is the only one that does.....

I also use a different browser now, Firefox doesn't have any issues with larger pictures


the redirection fail happened also in picture-free topics, so that's a miss as well,
BUT it does NOT happen when I use Firefox (again) as opposed to Internet Explorer.

which is nice for Mozilla fans like me, but still, most people use the complete Microsoft works and including Internet explorer.

it's a bug.

Re: forum doesn't rescale or redirect?

Posted: 02 Sep 2011, 16:24
by Jools
These are two totally different issues. Putting them in one thread is a good way to get confused. I will work on the image one. If you want to look at the redirect, please post another topic.

So, can you give me the environment in which this works and that in which it doesn't work? Also, you seem to be testing this on a particular topic - can you tell us which one.

What we need to try and do is replicate the problem you are seeing.

Jools

Re: forum doesn't rescale or redirect?

Posted: 02 Sep 2011, 16:35
by MatsP
sidguppy wrote:you're wrong on both accounts

right now I'm at home and LO and BEHOLD i can see the entire fish....
what has changed: the resolution of the screen

so what happens is this:
at a large resolution everything is shown as intended; at a smaller one, pictures are chopped from the right angle.
So how is it WRONG to say that "we don't do scaling on PC"? We haven't done for a long time. Jools is going to look at it, but until there is some changes (I'm pretty certain there is a phpBB mod to resize images) to make the image resize/scale, it works like this:
Your post viewing area is X% of the screen width, the rest is white on the edges and the info box for the author of the post. If the image fits within the X% of the width, then all is fine. If it's too big, the right-hand side of the image is cropped (or chopped, if you prefer). This is how it has been working for a long time, and it's not a bug, it's a decision made to have it like that.

Before Jools made some layout changes a while back, the way it worked was that the content was just shown very wide on the screen, and the info-box to the right was shown to the right of the post, whatever width that happened to be. This is good in the sense that the whole image is being shown, but it makes viewing the image just as difficult, because it's still too big to fit on screen...

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Mats