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Help IDing this Ancistrus (if possible)

Posted: 24 Sep 2011, 21:23
by beardedcharmer
New here. I bought 4 of these guys off aquabid as L213s but I'm not convinced. I wanted some small "starlight like" ancistrus for my discus tank and these guys were cheap even with shipping. Anyhow they hide alot so decent pics are difficult but I will try to take more if needed. They have 7 dorsal spines (I think again hard to count) if that helps. I know I may never find out for sure what they are but figured it does not hurt to ask.

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Re: Help IDing this Ancistrus (if possible)

Posted: 24 Sep 2011, 21:54
by MatsP
One candidate is (but there are several others).

A clear photo showing the rays in the dorsal fin will rule in/out the A. dolichopterus.

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Mats

Re: Help IDing this Ancistrus (if possible)

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 05:33
by beardedcharmer
MatsP wrote:One candidate is (but there are several others).

A clear photo showing the rays in the dorsal fin will rule in/out the A. dolichopterus.

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Mats
thanks I will get some better pics this week

Re: Help IDing this Ancistrus (if possible)

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 23:58
by beardedcharmer
MatsP wrote:One candidate is (but there are several others).

A clear photo showing the rays in the dorsal fin will rule in/out the A. dolichopterus.

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Mats
Here are some more. I don't think they are L183s as there is only a small bit of white on the tail fin(some havemore some havea small bit like this guy).

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Re: Help IDing this Ancistrus (if possible)

Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 00:32
by Suckermouth
I'm counting 7 rays, so that knocks A. dolichopterus right out.

Re: Help IDing this Ancistrus (if possible)

Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 10:06
by MatsP
Agree with Milton.

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Mats

Re: Help IDing this Ancistrus (if possible)

Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 13:06
by anton l.
those guys are really hard to identify.there is a lot of different ancistrus "spoty" variations.the 184 has 7 rays,but the spots are to small.. maybe 182? by the way,crossbreeding is another problem in ancistrus species.it makes it even harder to identify ~X( ,so it possibly might be a hybrid.

Re: Help IDing this Ancistrus (if possible)

Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 13:10
by MatsP
We have just ruled out L183 (A. dolichopterus), but yes, there are several others.

To original poster: What makes you think they are NOT ? I'm not saying it IS L213, just want to understand what characteristics makes you say it isn't.

Edit: I'm pretty sure it's not L107/L184 - they have larger, more separated spots.

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Mats

Re: Help IDing this Ancistrus (if possible)

Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 17:59
by stuby
L213 are a flat but wide ancistrus...kinda like L34....also they have a light blue color to the spots that don't show up well in pictures. The tail also has small trailers when they are in good shape. HTH

Chuck

Re: Help IDing this Ancistrus (if possible)

Posted: 30 Sep 2011, 01:10
by beardedcharmer
MatsP wrote: To original poster: What makes you think they are NOT ? I'm not saying it IS L213, just want to understand what characteristics makes you say it isn't.
Mainly looking at the tail, dorsal and pec fins of fish in the cat-e-log, but those are adults and mine are juvies. I was just curious if an ID was possible.