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synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 18:23
by Dennisdunn
I need help to find out if this is a synodontis Njassae catfish thanks dennis
Re: synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 18:52
by Richard B
This is NOT njassae
It looks like ocellifer although the spots are incredibly evenly spaced & prominent. It could well be a hybrid.
Re: synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 18:59
by Dennisdunn
Ahhh ok thanks for the fast reply would better pics help you with this fish
Re: synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 19:30
by Richard B
A pic exactly side on might help
Re: synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 19:36
by Richard B
Actually I'm certain this is a hybrid due to the spotting on the head
Re: synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 19:48
by Dennisdunn
Side on photo of my little monster with and without flash.... and how much would you say I can sell it for if I was going to sell it..
Re: synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 05:55
by Birger
Could be a farm-raised ocellifer...what I see though is the humeral process should be slightly concave at the upper margin this one is straight...small difference.
Lots of spots...just seems a little off.
Birger
Re: synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 13:31
by Viktor Jarikov
Keeping in mind Richard and Birger are great syno experts and I am two orders of magnitude below, I tend to think it is a hybrid; an unusually evenly and prominently spotted one.
Is it known that ocellier is farmed?
If you were to try to trade it in at a US LFS, the LFS would give you $5-$15 and they would try to sell it for $15-$45, most likely they'd give you ~$10 and try to sell it for ~$30 (standard mark-up), pretty much regardless of whether it is an ocellifer or a hybrid because vast majority of the buyers buy based on looks and, sadly, looks alone.
Re: synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 14:13
by Birger
Is it known that ocellier is farmed?
They are most likely hormone bred but not everything hormone bred is a hybrid, there are some real species being done.
Birger
Re: synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 14:26
by Viktor Jarikov
Right. So, obviously not for food but for ornamental trade? If yes, is it done in SE Asia, SA, Africa, or Eastern Europe (perhaps combining it with hybrid production)?
Just wondering what you know or at least currently think...
Re: synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 17:11
by Richard B
Hormone produced genuine species are being produced in Europe , not sure about elsewhere though
Re: synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 09:02
by jippo
I agree this is a hybrid.
Birger wrote:Is it known that ocellier is farmed?
They are most likely hormone bred but not everything hormone bred is a hybrid, there are some real species being done.
Birger
They have bred ocellifer at Germany years ago but there is no market for this species anymore. I think most of the genuine hormone bred synos comes from eastern europe. At the moment there is at least these genuine hormone bred synos:
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Re: synodontis njassae is this right. help
Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 19:12
by bassgenie
In my opinion, Its not Njassae as I keep a wild pair. This doesn't look like either the small or large spotted Variant to me. Both the Spotting and Body shape arent correct. Best of Luck. Pretty cat either way.