Page 1 of 1

Rio Negro

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 02:07
by racoll
Recent collecting trip to the upper Rio Negro near São Gabriel da Cachoeira, Brazil. Again, we weren't targeting catfishes, but a few turned up along the way.

Beach at São Gabriel da Cachoeira.
Image

Rapids at São Gabriel da Cachoeira.
Image

Forest.
Image

or ?
Image

Very interesting doradid. Almost looks like a Chimeara. Any ideas?
Image

?
Image

or ?
Image

?
Image

Image

This was a nice find. Caught with bare hands, snorkelling. Very long black barbels and really striking colour. Syntopic with Pterophyllum, and .
Image

? Very nice!
Image

. Bumped into a fisherman wandering up the road with his catch at the end of the day, so we stopped to have a look. Nearly had a seizure when I saw this. Was still alive too!
Image

?
Image

?
Image

or baby aspredinid?
Image

Lovely . Any ideas?
Image

Image

.
Image

. Massive.
Image

. Not sure which one.
Image


Some non-catfishes:

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

There's something really nice about collecting aquarium favourites in the wild. I think I remember @Jools saying the same thing about wild zebra danios?
Image

Image

Now, here's a few we bought from traders in Barcelos. I think some of them came from the Rio Demini.

.
Image

. Big one!
Image

.
Image

.
Image

from the Demini. Can't remember the L number.
Image

.
Image

.
Image

And to finish, a rather nice .
Image

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 02:26
by MatsP
Very nice. A. pauciradiatus is a "long way from home". Nice Pim, whichever it is.

--
Mats

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 02:32
by racoll
MatsP wrote: A. pauciradiatus is a "long way from home".
I noticed that too. Perhaps the cory people can suggest a better match?

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 02:44
by MatsP
racoll wrote:I noticed that too. Perhaps the cory people can suggest a better match?
Interestingly, according to our distribution data, there are no Aspidoras in Rio Negro.

Like for the Sturisoma, I'm not saying it's wrong, just a little surprised about the apparent wide distribution.

--
Mats

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 03:12
by Silurus
racoll wrote: or baby aspredinid?
Image
The former. And based on locality, most likely .

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 05:27
by Silurus
racoll wrote: Very interesting doradid. Almost looks like a Chimeara. Any ideas?
Image
I think this is .

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 05:40
by Silurus
racoll wrote: ?
Image
I'm inclined to think that this is some kind of . If so, it's almost certainly unnamed.

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 05:43
by Silurus
racoll wrote: . Not sure which one.
Image
I think this is .

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 08:55
by Jools
Silurus wrote:
racoll wrote: ?
Image
I'm inclined to think that this is some kind of . If so, it's almost certainly unnamed.
I agree on both counts, was my gut thought before I read HH's view. sp. "Rio Negro"?

Jools

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 20:22
by racoll
Silurus wrote: I'm inclined to think that this is some kind of Trachelyichthys. If so, it's almost certainly unnamed.
Bugger. Only collected three, I think. They appeared to quite abundant at first, but suddenly all disappeared when the full moon rose (although it may have been more to do with me splashing my net about all over the place and shining lights).
Silurus wrote: I think this is Tridensimilis.
It came out of the gills of a , apparently.

Silurus wrote:I think this is Doras phlyzakion.
I checked the description, and I don't think it's that one. looks like a better match, I think.

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 17:23
by krzys

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 18:02
by racoll
krzys wrote:https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4Yhz ... C04391.JPG
He has teeth like Scobinancistrus.
Actually, not if you look closely. have spatulate (spoon shaped) teeth, which is why scientists consider them to be closely related to . have strongly bicuspid (fork shaped) teeth.

Check out Dr Armbruster's loricariid homepage for more information.

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 03:51
by Psy
Is that a ?

Any info on what it looked like where you found it? Aside from the one picture in the clog there isn't much on the specific areas where they are found.

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 13:17
by PseudaSmart
So you get paid to do this :d
Nice!
Jim

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 13:56
by Viktor Jarikov
?

Superb account, Rupert!

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 04 Jul 2013, 12:33
by call911
Nice pictures. Thanks for sharing :)

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 04 Jul 2013, 18:06
by racoll
Just realised I never replied to this.
Psy wrote:Is that a Platydoras armatulus?
Yes, it is , although it's possible there's some variation in that species. It has a very wide distribution. Most in the trade come from Peru I think.
Psy wrote:Any info on what it looked like where you found it? Aside from the one picture in the clog there isn't much on the specific areas where they are found.
I don't have photos I'm afraid, but was caught at the edge of a lake, by a grassy area where fishermen keep their boats. It was among tree roots in shallow water (<1m), along with Pterophyllum (angelfish), and . Water was very black, and warm.

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 09:30
by HaakonH
Lovely . Any ideas?
Image

Image


I'd say this is the quite variable

Haakon

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 07:14
by See5163
Thanks for sharing own experience.

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 07:53
by joemc
fantastic photos and you have answered one of my questions with them! I wondered where that form (maybe species?) of Crenuchus spilurus was found, if was offered for sale here last year, but no catch location

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 15:24
by racoll
joemc wrote:I wondered where that form (maybe species?) of Crenuchus spilurus was found, if was offered for sale here last year, but no catch location
If I recall correctly we got the Crenuchus from near Santa Isabel do Rio Negro. The ones from the trade were labelled as coming from Venezuela. See http://www.aquariumglaser.com/en/archiv.php?news_id=679. The upper Rio Negro and Orinoco are joined, so many species are shared between the two. There's only one described species of Crenuchus (C. spilurus), but due to the wide distribution and variation, I'd imagine it's a complex of species.

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 23:58
by joemc
thanks for the link and the info, the ones in the link look pretty skinny, they are one of my favourite tetras, a very cool tetra that thinks it is an apistogramma!

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 21:36
by Karsten S.
Hi,
racoll wrote:
MatsP wrote: A. pauciradiatus is a "long way from home".
I noticed that too. Perhaps the cory people can suggest a better match?
the imported specimen of "Aspidoras" pauciradiatus all originate from Rio Negro region as far as I know.
It is not clear if the type locality is correct, it seems that no "Aspidoras" pauciradiatus can be found there.

The cory that you caught is what we aquaristists consider to be "Aspidoras" pauciradiatus although it is more than doubtful that it is really an Aspidoras species.

Cheers,

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 21:55
by racoll
Thanks for the info. Just what I was looking for!

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 21 May 2016, 13:58
by Sjors
Great information! Nice to see those species. Some of them are not listed at fishbase and mongabay. Nice to see the Tetragonopterus argenteus and Aequidens Diadema / Pallidus.

Re: Rio Negro

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 16:50
by TheFishGuy1
These are nice finds and photos. Thank you for sharing them!