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Unknown Lori, contaminant on shipment - Hypan?

Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 06:46
by xingumike
Morning all,

Posting on behalf of a friend, has just picked this up, came as a contaminant with a shipment into an LFS (they can't remember what that shipment was or where it came from)

Any clues, it's might pretty whatever it is.

3 inches TL

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Re: Unknown Lori, contaminant on shipment - Hypan?

Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 08:32
by HaakonH
don't seem like an unlikely match here. Nevertheless this is probably the most fantastic specimen I've seen. Too bad this kind of pattern/such big spots is not very common.

No chance of finding out what other fish this one was found among? It would be really helpful.

Haakon

Re: Unknown Lori, contaminant on shipment - Hypan?

Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 14:19
by xingumike
HaakonH wrote: don't seem like an unlikely match here. Nevertheless this is probably the most fantastic specimen I've seen. Too bad this kind of pattern/such big spots is not very common.

No chance of finding out what other fish this one was found among? It would be really helpful.

Haakon
Unfortunately not, I already asked and he has asked the LFS and they don't know.

I agree it would certainly help narrow it down.

It is the sort of specimen I would expect to see on the topfin website from Japan, gorgeous fish.

Re: Unknown Lori, contaminant on shipment - Hypan?

Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 14:38
by plecoboy
How about a L136c ?

Re: Unknown Lori, contaminant on shipment - Hypan?

Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 14:47
by HaakonH
plecoboy wrote:How about a L136c ?
I honestly can't exclude this possibility 100% without location data or other info, but L136 tend to have a slightly more line-pattern of dots in the fins - even L136c. So I still believe H.contradens is more likely.

May I ask if he had to pay a lot for it compared to i.e. normal H.contradens?

Haakon

Re: Unknown Lori, contaminant on shipment - Hypan?

Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 20:15
by plecoboy
I think it looks like the one on the L Welse website. If it is a contaminant then what other plecos did he receive? That may tell you what river it came from.

Re: Unknown Lori, contaminant on shipment - Hypan?

Posted: 11 Apr 2013, 21:27
by xingumike
HaakonH wrote:
plecoboy wrote:How about a L136c ?
I honestly can't exclude this possibility 100% without location data or other info, but L136 tend to have a slightly more line-pattern of dots in the fins - even L136c. So I still believe H.contradens is more likely.

May I ask if he had to pay a lot for it compared to i.e. normal H.contradens?

Haakon
I don't know what he paid, the LFS didn't know what it was so I think he got a relative bargain.

plecoboy wrote:I think it looks like the one on the L Welse website. If it is a contaminant then what other plecos did he receive? That may tell you what river it came from.
He didn't get a contaminant, the LFS did, see above, no idea of locale.

Re: Unknown Lori, contaminant on shipment - Hypan?

Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 01:40
by plecoboy
I meant the guy at the LFS, sorry. My point is if they received a bunch of plecos typically found in the Rio Negro, then I would lean towards L136c. If they got a bunch found in the Rio Orinoco, then I would lean to a L201 type.

Re: Unknown Lori, contaminant on shipment - Hypan?

Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 08:02
by Cristoffer Forssander
I actually had H. contradense that looked like this! Is this a young specimen? My fishes got less attractive by age, but stillthey have much more and bigger spots than "normal" H contradense. Perhaps this is a top of the line H contradense? If its from Orinoco and not the rio negro..

Unfortunately I dont have images from when they where young cause I actually didn't thought that they would chage that much.

Re: Unknown Lori, contaminant on shipment - Hypan?

Posted: 12 Apr 2013, 11:47
by Acanthicus
Hi,

I think it is H. contradens and I assume it will get it's normal colour back in parts while time passes. The pattern reminds me a lot of a specimen of L 142 I have seen some years ago and later it was patterned completely normal.
We'll see.