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l134 fight

Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 11:22
by iordan1999
Hello guys! Today i saw my 2 plecos l134 to fight. They are about 5/6 sm. They dont have ''odontodes''. They fight like this fish: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=anvBwkNuqW4 . Are They males?

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 14:32
by bekateen
Here, this may help:


Cheers, Eric

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 07 Sep 2015, 19:08
by iordan1999
Nobody know ??

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 07 Sep 2015, 19:27
by rob rensen
Just a fight...nothing to worry about

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 08 Sep 2015, 12:14
by Jobro
If it keeps happening daily, try adding some more caves.

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 04:32
by YSR50
Jobro wrote:If it keeps happening daily, try adding some more caves.
or just rearrange what you already have.

That's my video above, and like Rob said, just a fight, nothing to worry about.

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 08 Oct 2015, 09:37
by iordan1999
I saw them only 1 time to fight. I think i saw some "odontodes" on 1 fish but i have not seen saw good. Soon i should to take them out the tank to see them better.

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 08 Oct 2015, 13:49
by iordan1999
Pair? Size 7 sm.
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Re: l134 fight

Posted: 08 Oct 2015, 14:51
by bekateen
In both pairs of photos, the upper fish looks like a female - its wider midbody and in particular its genital papilla. The lower fish appears to be a male, with regard to his genital papilla, and it has the slightly thinner body. From the dorsal view, odontodes are bigger on the male too.

The only confusing detail I see is that in the ventral view, your female appears to have bigger odontodes than the male (this is the opposite of what I see in the dorsal view). I'm hoping that this is just an optical illusion. Are these photos arranged so that the fish in the upper dorsal photo is the same fish as seen in the upper ventral photo?

Cheers, Eric

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 08 Oct 2015, 15:02
by iordan1999
2th and 3th photo is on same fish.

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 08 Oct 2015, 15:23
by bekateen
Okay, then that's a puzzler for me. If the side odontodes are most important for sexing, then the genital papillae are just distracting. Otherwise, I would have said your male is a female and your female a male based on the papillae.

I guess you can't trust my judgment in this case.

Eric

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 11 Oct 2015, 18:01
by flh1200
Hi there,
just my opinion - based on the shape of their body and head - they are 2 females. I have several L75 and the semiadult females behave the same way. The males fight more vicious - and chase each other away.
Ciao
Max

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 12 Oct 2015, 17:47
by iordan1999
Female with "odontodes" ?

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 15 Oct 2015, 10:56
by Jobro
Only sure way to tell peckoltia apart is when they get in breeding mood. Males will have big brushes on the tails. I also think you got two females. But igve them some more time.

Re: l134 fight

Posted: 04 Dec 2015, 16:08
by iordan1999
Fish #2 start to stay in cave. I think he is male. #1 only stay somewhere hidden... In the same tank i have pair starlight ancistrus l183 and they are more larger from l134... The l134 are about 7sm and l183 are 12-15 sm. Tank is 120 l.
Soon i should move l134 in other tank.

P.p Sorry for my english :d