Page 1 of 1

L201???

Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 15:40
by pleco171182
Hello,

I have recently purchased this handsome little chap from my LFS (they had no idea what it was and sold it to me as a BN £8 :-$ )

Please could you help me identify it exactly, I have it in a 80L tank with an internal 1500 LPH filter with just rocks and bog wood to try and simulate the upper Orinoco... its like a washing machine! It is housed with one other fish, an L128.

My aim is to breed the L201 and one day the L128 ( i know the latter is v hard ) but first things first is to 110% make sure i get the right L number.

Any feedback from you lot would be greatly appreciated as I know there are some experts on here!

Many thanks in advance

David

[img]
IMG_6786.JPG
[/img]

Re: L201???

Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 16:27
by dw1305
Hi all,
You'll have to wait for some-one who knows what they are talking about for a proper answer, but with the large pectoral fins (I can only see the lower picture) it looks more like .

cheers Darrel

Re: L201???

Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 17:44
by racoll
Looks like a to me.

Re: L201???

Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 18:07
by pleco171182
Thanks Darrell, I will get some more pics up in a bit...

Raccoll??? Did you put up that pic by mistake

Re: L201???

Posted: 16 Oct 2015, 18:43
by racoll
Raccoll??? Did you put up that pic by mistake
No, click on the link. The link is to a genus, not a species, so the one shown (L. triactis) is just an automatically generated example.

If it is a Leporacanthicus, it will be in the L. galaxias group.

Re: L201???

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 11:13
by pleco171182
Thanks Raccoll! I will try and upload some more pictures but you don't seem to be able to do it straight from an iPhone. What I have noticed is that it has very hairy pec fins? I understand males can generate these but this little chap is only 40mm-500mm long. Too be honest it's like no other plec ive seen before!

Re: L201???

Posted: 17 Oct 2015, 23:35
by pleco171182
racoll, you are indeed spot on, it's a L240.

Many thanks

Re: L201???

Posted: 19 Oct 2015, 08:04
by pleco171182
After allot of investigating, it turns out this little chap is a L142 GDA33, what do you lot think?

Re: L201???

Posted: 19 Oct 2015, 13:45
by dw1305
Hi all,
pleco171182 wrote:After allot of investigating, it turns out this little chap is a L142 GDA33, what do you lot think?
Some-one may well be able to tell from the photo, but you could get a definitive answer from a photo of its mouth.

Its quite important you know which fish it is because they have different diets.

(<http://www.planetcatfish.com/cotm/cotm. ... icle_id=67>) and (<http://www.planetcatfish.com/shanesworl ... cle_id=382>) have very different dentition.

Leporacanthicus teeth (from <http://www.auburn.edu/academic/science_ ... lepor.html>)
Image

Baryancistrus teeth:
Image

If it puts its fins out Baryancistrus also have a "enlarged, posterior membrane on the dorsal fin".

There is a very good picture in Ingo Seidels "Back to Nature: Guide to L numbers" <http://www.planetcatfish.com/books/book ... -Catfishes> it is well worth investing in a copy.

cheers Darrel

Re: L201???

Posted: 19 Oct 2015, 18:12
by racoll
Without a doubt this is a .

pleco171182 ,what makes you think it is a ?

Re: L201???

Posted: 19 Oct 2015, 19:04
by Jools
Yup, @Racoll is spot on that this is a species of , you can see the fimbrations on the oral disc and also the tell tale raised notch at the back of the head.

Jools

Re: L201???

Posted: 19 Oct 2015, 22:04
by pleco171182
Thanks gents, so this is a L240?

I obviously got some confusing advice from my LFS! Luckily I have been giving it an omnivorous diet due to being tanked with my 2 L128s. He does tend to take a shine to bloodworm so I should of realised.

Re: L201???

Posted: 26 Oct 2015, 09:26
by pleco171182
Here are some more pics, I think its 99% an L240!

Apologies for the gravel, it came with the tank and I haven't changed it yet...