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418 or 191?

Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 13:23
by DLTJR
As title says, imported as 418. But some thoughts 191?

Re: 418 or 191?

Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 20:00
by Dave Rinaldo
I asked someone. "Interopucular odontodes in titan [ L418 ] tend to be yellow, so L191 is more likely. "

Re: 418 or 191?

Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 21:01
by Jools
Agree with Dave but it is hard to say as the fish is not showing relaxed colours as on a black, bare, base.


Jools

Re: 418 or 191?

Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 21:05
by DLTJR
So because of the black base his colors are normal? I know at one point he had yellow tips at the point of his dorsal and ends of his pectorals.

Re: 418 or 191?

Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 21:07
by Jools
No, he's darker probably because of the base. L191 should be black spots on a dark grey base. Depending on size too - what size is your fish excluding the tail fin?

Jools

Re: 418 or 191?

Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 21:09
by DLTJR
Appx 9". His lines on his head a barely visible.

Re: 418 or 191?

Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 21:20
by Jools
OK, so right size. You'd need to keep him in lower light with a substrate to see the natural colours.

Jools

Re: 418 or 191?

Posted: 28 Mar 2018, 21:27
by DLTJR
Couple close ups of head region. He is going in another tank with substrate and dimmer old T8.

Re: 418 or 191?

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 01:24
by Runtunt
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I have the same question: L418 or 191? I purchased two Panaques as a L027s from Liveaquria.com, about 2" long, in Jan. 2018. They had a distinctive white ring at the peduncle that disappeared after a few month of rapid growth. Now they have about 6-inch total-length and look closer to L418 or L191 than L027. What do you the community think? Thanks!

Re: 418 or 191?

Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 11:36
by DeUschle
Hi,

because of the yellow seam in the caudal fin the fish of DLTJR seems to be L418.
The fish of Runtunt is clearly L191 from Colombia.

Regards Fabian