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What are these

Posted: 15 Feb 2019, 20:12
by Iamfish
These color morph cats are being sold in japan, was wondering what they are since they use japanese names to label that don't translate into anything. I also found these color morph trachys online and was wondering what species they are.
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Re: What are these

Posted: 16 Feb 2019, 15:16
by Viktor Jarikov
The first is a cetopsis species, a true freshwater micro-shark.

The second looks like one the obscure / hard to ID so-called jumper catfish.
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The trachy woodcats are hard to ID for me in general and with this photo in particular. I'd think a clean full side shot could help but I understand it is but a random photo.

Re: What are these

Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 20:11
by Iamfish
Thanks for the help, so jealous of Asia getting all the awesome color morphs. My best guess for the Trachys is https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/sp ... ies_id=870

Re: What are these

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 01:08
by Iamfish
Some more color morph catfish from Asia if anyone wants to try to id them.
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Re: What are these

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 01:41
by Silurus

Re: What are these

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 02:03
by Iamfish
Thanks for the ids,the highfin catfish looks insane, they also had a leucisitic one

Re: What are these

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 19:09
by Jools
Can you post a link to the Bagrichthys hypselopterus source site? Seeing this fish alive is quite something let along a weird one.

Cheers,

Jools

Re: What are these

Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 20:43
by Iamfish

Re: What are these

Posted: 20 Feb 2019, 13:29
by Viktor Jarikov
Thanks to Silurus for the correct ID on the Rita. I was clearly wrong.

The one he didn't touch is a hybrid of lima shovelnose and RTC. (An abomination IMHO but this is besides the point.)

Re: What are these

Posted: 20 Feb 2019, 16:17
by Jools
Iamfish wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 20:43 http://www.tropicalfish-indonesia.com/? ... B1PFvypMSE is the place that had them.
Thanks, but I couldn't find it on the site.

Cheers,

Jools

Re: What are these

Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 20:30
by Iamfish
Jools wrote: 20 Feb 2019, 16:17
Iamfish wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 20:43 http://www.tropicalfish-indonesia.com/? ... B1PFvypMSE is the place that had them.
Thanks, but I couldn't find it on the site.

Cheers,

Jools
They were past sales fish posted on there Instagram

Re: What are these

Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 21:22
by Iamfish
Jools wrote: 20 Feb 2019, 16:17
Iamfish wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 20:43 http://www.tropicalfish-indonesia.com/? ... B1PFvypMSE is the place that had them.
Thanks, but I couldn't find it on the site.

Cheers,

Jools
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhTN1HlHnp8/

Re: What are these

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 16:32
by Jools
That's really cool, thanks, it's the first time I've seen a video of this species.

Cheers,

Jools

Re: What are these

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 17:58
by Iamfish
No problem, Whenever I am bored I just try and find cool color morph fish pictures. It is insane what collectors in Asia have, makes me want to move there.

Re: What are these

Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 01:03
by Iamfish
3 more color cats from Asia to ID
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Re: What are these

Posted: 25 Feb 2019, 03:26
by Viktor Jarikov
Looks to me like
-- B.juruense,
-- a smaller Doradid, could be from the Hassar or Doras genus but reminds me also of the O. niger posted by Vincent Wu on MFK (EDIT: which of course this fish is not based on the adipose fin.)
-- same black lancer catfish as you posted above but this one is xanthic, not leucistic / platinum.

Re: What are these

Posted: 25 Feb 2019, 05:09
by Silurus

Re: What are these

Posted: 25 Feb 2019, 14:26
by Viktor Jarikov
Needless to say, I'd go with what Silurus is saying. He is right.

Re: What are these

Posted: 26 Feb 2019, 23:39
by Iamfish
Viktor Jarikov wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 03:26 Looks to me like
-- B.juruense,
-- a smaller Doradid, could be from the Hassar or Doras genus but reminds me also of the O. niger posted by Vincent Wu on MFK (EDIT: which of course this fish is not based on the adipose fin.)
-- same black lancer catfish as you posted above but this one is xanthic, not leucistic / platinum.
You sure on the Juruense id? The head looks a lot like a Rousseauxii.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BY-yc55g4F2/ here is a link to the video for a better view

Re: What are these

Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 00:14
by Viktor Jarikov
The video confirms the juruense ID to my eye. The fish even appears to bear the faintest stripes as would be found on a juruense.

Re: What are these

Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 13:36
by Iamfish
Labeled as Wild caught platinum mystus from Kapuas river in borneo
king kong platinum unknown catfish.jpg

Albino trachy of some sort
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Looks like leucistic oxydoras niger? Weird markings on the head from the morph or is it maybe a different species?
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Pictures found online

Re: What are these

Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 14:50
by Viktor Jarikov
-- Hemibagrus sp
-- Trachycorystes trachycorystes
-- O. niger

Re: What are these

Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 15:00
by Jools
You know, somewhere, this is an old thread will all albinos known listed on it.

Jools

Re: What are these

Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 16:47
by Iamfish
I have a lot more color morph cat pics I could post.

Re: What are these

Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 17:26
by Jools
Iamfish wrote: 27 Feb 2019, 16:47 I have a lot more color morph cat pics I could post.
Will, if they not in this list then we don't have them in the database. However, I'd need copyright info / permission if they're to be added.


Cheers,

Jools

Re: What are these

Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 18:16
by Iamfish
Jools wrote: 27 Feb 2019, 17:26
Iamfish wrote: 27 Feb 2019, 16:47 I have a lot more color morph cat pics I could post.
Will, if they not in this list then we don't have them in the database. However, I'd need copyright info / permission if they're to be added.


Cheers,

Jools
I could post them and tell you where I got the pics from and maybe a few of them you could ask to use the image? Problem is a good amount of them are from people who re post who don't say where the original image is from. I still have a fair few I could post and could tell you the owner though.

Re: What are these

Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 19:04
by Jools
Sure, as long as the source looks legit and preferably there's no watermarking.

Jools

Re: What are these

Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 19:51
by Iamfish
From http://www.kaitori-king-kong.com/
Albino Granulosus
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The nicest platinum tsn I have seen
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Leucistic Irwini
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Platinum Shortbody Paroon Shark
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Re: What are these

Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 20:04
by Iamfish
Xanthic Wallago Leeri from https://www.instagram.com/venusaquatics/
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Platinum Shortbody Black ear Pangasius from http://www.guriffinjapan.net/ ( currently for sale)
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Platinum Brachyplatystoma capapretum from https://www.instagram.com/bigaquaindonesia/
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Albino Goonch, idk which species from https://www.instagram.com/breedfarm/
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Albino Vulture Catfish from https://www.instagram.com/kelson_exotic_fishes/
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Re: What are these

Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 21:24
by Viktor Jarikov
The one you labeled W. leerii looks a Silurus species to me.