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Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 08 May 2020, 12:22
by stuby
Thought I'd share the new project that I have been working on. The new fish room will be 31' x 22'.... more than double the size of my current one. I will add pictures as I get more done.

Take care,
Chuck

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 08 May 2020, 12:53
by TwoTankAmin
That is not a fish room, it is a fish building?

Jealosy.........

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 08 May 2020, 13:02
by Bas Pels
9 * 6.6 meters. Wow. That's 3 times the surface I have in my garage

In this garage I made 1 big mistake, there is nowhere to sit, thus there is no place to enjoy the fishes. It is a workroom, and that resulted in ultimately a lot of dry tanks.

Most likely you wil have a lot of small tanks for breeding, for raising fry - but I would also plan a place to sit, and have a few nice tanks around it. And among the tnaks you might also want to be able to sit down, and observe. Sometimes observing is needed and doing it sitting is more comfortable.

I made also a smaller mistake, I forgot ventilation. This, however, could later be mended.

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 08 May 2020, 13:26
by stuby
TwoTankAmin wrote: 08 May 2020, 12:53 That is not a fish room, it is a fish building?

Jealosy.........
LOL yes... more of a building than a room.

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 08 May 2020, 13:35
by stuby
Bas Pels wrote: 08 May 2020, 13:02 9 * 6.6 meters. Wow. That's 3 times the surface I have in my garage

In this garage I made 1 big mistake, there is nowhere to sit, thus there is no place to enjoy the fishes. It is a workroom, and that resulted in ultimately a lot of dry tanks.

Most likely you wil have a lot of small tanks for breeding, for raising fry - but I would also plan a place to sit, and have a few nice tanks around it. And among the tnaks you might also want to be able to sit down, and observe. Sometimes observing is needed and doing it sitting is more comfortable.

I made also a smaller mistake, I forgot ventilation. This, however, could later be mended.
Than you for the input.... I will have somewhere to sit as well and a air exchanger plus a dehumidifier will be used as well to keep the humidity down to a good level. This is my 3rd fish room..... I am a slow learner but hopefully I thought of everything this time as it will be my last build (I hope anyways)! Smallest tank I use is 20 gallon (I have them up to a 125 gallon in use now), when I get done I will have a large tank for some stingray as well.... 8' x 4' I am planning for them. I will likely post a thread on that build as well.

Take care and any recommendations please feel free to post,
Chuck

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 08 May 2020, 14:11
by bekateen
I look forward to your progress.

Enjoy,
Eric

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 08 May 2020, 15:25
by Viktor Jarikov
Cool and exciting.

Is this going to be an in-floor heater? If so, how have you insulated the floor from heat losses to ground, which is probably at year round 55 F a few feet below grade in Michigan?

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 08 May 2020, 16:24
by 2wheelsx2
Viktor Jarikov wrote: 08 May 2020, 15:25 Is this going to be an in-floor heater? If so, how have you insulated the floor from heat losses to ground, which is probably at year round 55 F a few feet below grade in Michigan?
It appears he has already insulated above the concrete before running the heating lines in that pic.

And yes that is a fish house! 50% bigger than my 2 car garage!

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 08 May 2020, 16:47
by stuby
Yes, it is in floor heating. There will be a slight loss in heat.... but not enough for me to worry about. Heat will always go up.....

Take care,
Chuck

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 09 May 2020, 02:45
by Mart1996
It's going to be absolutley awesome 👍

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 09 May 2020, 09:22
by Jools
Looks ace and very much looking forward to watching it develop.

Jools

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 09 May 2020, 09:53
by MarcW
Very nice, I'd love to have that much space for a fish room, I'm already imagining what I'd put in it!

Top of the list would be a very long river/rapids tank along one wall!

Good luck keep us updated with the progress.

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 09 May 2020, 11:15
by stuby
MarcW wrote: 09 May 2020, 09:53 Very nice, I'd love to have that much space for a fish room, I'm already imagining what I'd put in it!

Top of the list would be a very long river/rapids tank along one wall!

Good luck keep us updated with the progress.
I like they way you think!

Take care,
Chuck

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 09 May 2020, 11:16
by stuby
Jools wrote: 09 May 2020, 09:22 Looks ace and very much looking forward to watching it develop.

Jools
Thanks Jools, I will keep you all updated on the progress we make!

Take care,
Chuck

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 09 May 2020, 13:58
by Viktor Jarikov
stuby wrote: 08 May 2020, 16:47 Yes, it is in floor heating. There will be a slight loss in heat.... but not enough for me to worry about. Heat will always go up.....

Take care,
Chuck
Gotcha. So it is insulated.

I am not sure how to interpret the last bit. We are talking conductive, contact heat transfer, to which gravity is immaterial, as opposed to a convective mode of heat transfer involving air or other gases, which you appear to be hinting at. I am guessing you mean that the heat will be transferred from the warm floor in the up direction by convection quickly enough making the slow conductive transfer through the insulation to the ground negligible.

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 09 May 2020, 14:16
by Bas Pels
We used to have an icehockey stadion in Nijmegen, which became redundant. So it was removed, to make place for houses.

Problem was, the soil was frozen for the first 5 meters after 50 years of ice hockey there. When it was build, just after WWII nobody had ever thought of insulation. They had to wait 3 years before building could start.

Convection heat and thus the lack thereoff, can go far. Luckely the floor is insulated, that will help a lot.

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 09 May 2020, 15:28
by stuby
Before I got hurt and couldn't work anymore I did plumbing and heating for many years..... I have don't a lot of in floor heating. More than I care to remember! lol I started doing this in Alaska... ground temp is a bit colder than it is here in Michigan. If I find it doesn't put out enough heat (I am sure it will be fine) I can always put in a wall, unit, or a space heater. I will likely do this anyways... just for a backup.


Take care,
Chuck

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 14:07
by stuby
Sorry for it taking so long...... Just wanted to show the progress of the fish room. Still have more stands to make and tanks to move but I have been taking some pictures as it progressed. I will update as I get more done. If you have questions, feel free to ask.

Take care,
Chuck

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 14:24
by bekateen
Looks good Chuck!

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 14:39
by fishguy1978
Wow, super cool.

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 19:25
by stuby
bekateen wrote: 12 Aug 2022, 14:24 Looks good Chuck!
fishguy1978 wrote: 12 Aug 2022, 14:39 Wow, super cool.
Thank you both.

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 12 Aug 2022, 23:47
by Woodh
Nice! :) Also nice looking mini plecos in the other post)

How many and how large are the tanks aprox?

Have a good weekend!

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 13 Aug 2022, 02:08
by stuby
Woodh wrote: 12 Aug 2022, 23:47 Nice! :) Also nice looking mini plecos in the other post)

How many and how large are the tanks aprox?

Have a good weekend!
Thank you!

So far, I have 30-40 breeders (~151 liter), 6-75 gallon (~285 liter), 1-90 gallon (~340 liter), and 4-~50 gallon (~189 liter) tanks set up. I still have more I need to move after I make some stands.

Take care,
Chuck

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 15 Aug 2022, 20:54
by Shane
Chuck,
Just out of curiosity, what does the water bill look like? Off the top of my head I am calculating just under 4,000 gallons a month for water changes.
-Shane

Re: Stuby's fish room build

Posted: 16 Aug 2022, 00:08
by stuby
Shane wrote: 15 Aug 2022, 20:54 Chuck,
Just out of curiosity, what does the water bill look like? Off the top of my head I am calculating just under 4,000 gallons a month for water changes.
-Shane
I am on a well so no "water bill". But my electric bill is way up there. Right now, I have both fish rooms running as far as air pumps and dehumidifiers ect. I was changing ~ 150gallons of water a day.... taking off a day every so often so you are right there with the estimate. The new fish room I tend to change even more water, but I have not calculated it yet.... figured I wait till I am done before I did. Electric bill last month $572........

I should add that my water usage is actually higher than what I said it was...... I use a RO filter and mix RO and tap to get what I want. So ~75 gallons of RO water and same for tap water a day. Not sure how many gallons of water I use to make a gallon of RO.

Take care,
Chuck