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Clarias angolensis-(warning big pictures!!)
Posted: 07 Feb 2003, 12:37
by Mika
I saw one last week in importers aquarium. Fishbase gives stantard length of 35 cm is this correct? Does anyone have experiences? Very nice looking fish and if it doesn`t grow bigger it is good addition to my aquarium.
Posted: 07 Feb 2003, 13:12
by Silurus
This is a rare instance of FishBase being actually correct. <i>Clarias angolensis</i> does not get bigger than about 32 cm SL.
Wish I could say more about their care (I have some <i>C. angolensis</i> on hold for me at an importer right now), but most <i>Clarias</i> are generally easy to care for anyway, even the non-cultured species (my experience with Asian <i>Clarias</i>).
Get it for your aquarium and let us know how it works out.
Posted: 23 Feb 2003, 12:11
by Mika
Got it an friday. Very nice looking Clarias. It has well behaved so far. I´m watching for any changes in behaviour. It had been with in shipment of Pareutropius buffei. Had eaten a few of them until importer noticed it existing in the aquarium. They were reliefed to hand it over and they had drawn skull in shipment bag.

It is only 15 cm long at the moment and has plenty of growing to do. My Mystys leucophasis and Anaspidoglanis macrostoma already did showed its place in pecking order. We´ll see what happens.
Posted: 24 Feb 2003, 13:07
by Mika
How to indetify my Clarias. It looks bit like this "C.camerunensis" but has many white spots on its body. Planetcatfish E-Log shows aqualog photo of C. angolensis without white spots. If someone has Aquarien atlas (was it 2,3 or4??) it shows as C. angolensis like mine.Hope it isn`t C. camerunensis or any other big monster.Very confusing

Posted: 24 Feb 2003, 13:12
by Silurus
What is the pattern of the spots on your fish? African <i>Clarias</i> have spots that are either arrranged in parallel vertical rows, or randomly scattered over the body. Knowing how the spots are arranged may be important in helping to determine what species you have.
<i>Clarias angolensis</i> is said to have no spots, BTW. A picture would help.
Posted: 24 Feb 2003, 13:14
by Mika
What is the pattern of the spots on your fish? African Clarias have spots that are either arrranged in parallel vertical rows, or randomly scattered over the body. Knowing how the spots are arranged may be important in helping to determine what species you have.
I´ll have to check when i get home.I recall spots being in parallel vertical rows. Hope i get the picture in couple of days here.
Posted: 10 Mar 2003, 16:20
by Mika
Posted: 10 Mar 2003, 16:29
by Silurus
Bad news: it's not <i>C. angolensis</i>.
Not so bad news: It looks like <i>C. batrachus</i> at first glance, but it may be another African species. I can only confirm later tonight, though.
Can you get a pic of the dorsal view also? Pictures aren't showing up in the initial post. I had to cut and paste the urls to view them.
Posted: 10 Mar 2003, 16:37
by Mika
Can you get a pic of the dorsal view also?
Dorsal view? Help me little bit. From the side,behind or front?
Posted: 10 Mar 2003, 17:14
by Silurus
From the top.
Posted: 10 Mar 2003, 23:26
by Silurus
Until I get a dorsal shot to confirm, my tentative conclusion is that you have <i>Clarias pachynema</i>, which grows to about 35 cm.
Posted: 11 Mar 2003, 09:59
by Mika
i`m moving in a month and i have planned to take pictures of my catfishes in separate photographing tank.We´ll be back in bussiness then. Thanks so far.
Posted: 23 Jan 2004, 13:30
by Mika
Silurus confirmed that it was Claria pachynema months ago. On which characters is determination based on? They almost all(Clarias "africans") look so similar to me. Is the main reference this?
Teugels, G.G., 1986. A systematic revision of the African species of the genus Clarias (Pisces; Clariidae).. Ann. Mus. R. Afr. Centr., Sci. Zool., 247:199 p.
By the way it is still living with a rotten whiskers
http://www.forum.planetcatfish.com/viewtopic.php?t=5089
Posted: 23 Jan 2004, 13:35
by Silurus
Is the main reference this?
Yes, although many
Clarias (both African and Asian) are actually difficult to identify accurately without detailed examination.